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To: Quark2005

I would dare say you have NO IDEA what a "one catastrophe" could or could not do, one castatrophy, could have many different compositions weather,deluges,respites,deluges, earthquakes,tremors,earthquakes,eruptions,steamvents,respites, repeat. not to mention how this would effect radiometric decay(unknowable pressures,temperatures,leaching,etc..).multiple strata doesn't demand long ages.

fossil fish scream out rapid burial and preservation/hardening, the are preserved with no sign of decay.


264 posted on 11/03/2005 7:57:06 AM PST by flevit
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To: flevit
I would dare say you have NO IDEA what a "one catastrophe" could or could not do, one castatrophy, could have many different compositions weather,deluges,respites,deluges, earthquakes,tremors,earthquakes,eruptions,steamvents,respites, repeat.

So you're a saying that the "catastrophe" that you hypothesize is violent enough to cause massive geological and meteorological upheaval but that it very neatly deposited tribolites and primitive cephalopods in Paleozoic strata, dinosaurs in Mesozoic strata, modern mammals in Cenozoic strata. Interesting.

...not to mention how this would effect radiometric decay(unknowable pressures,temperatures,leaching,etc..)

We know exactly what this would do to radioactive decay. It would cause varying unrelated isotopic dating methods to give disparate results. When this type of result is observed, there is not enough statistical certainty to give an exact date. However, when "calmer" processes such as slow sedimentation cause rock formation, different dating methods given a very statistically certain date, sometimes to a certainty of 0.3% in certain K-Ar dating processes. A catastrophic upheaval cannot explain why different isotopic dating methods would collude to give an exact dating result.

multiple strata doesn't demand long ages.

No, but the age it takes to deposit multiple strata leaves signs determinable not only from radiometric dating but sequence stratigraphy - this area belongs to the research field of sedimentology.

fossil fish scream out rapid burial and preservation/hardening, the are preserved with no sign of decay.

Rapid burial, yes. Rapid hardening? Fossilization takes hundreds of thousands of years. What mechanism do you propose that suddenly turns bone into solid rock?

I certainly hope you don't think we should replace modern biology and earth science education with this sort of reasoning. We're in serious trouble as scientifically advanced nation if that ever becomes the norm.

265 posted on 11/03/2005 8:17:11 AM PST by Quark2005 (Science aims to elucidate. Pseudoscience aims to obfuscate.)
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To: flevit
"I would dare say you have NO IDEA what a "one catastrophe" could or could not do, one castatrophy, could have many different compositions weather,deluges,respites,deluges, earthquakes,tremors,earthquakes,eruptions,steamvents,respites, repeat. not to mention how this would effect radiometric decay(unknowable pressures,temperatures,leaching,etc..).multiple strata doesn't demand long ages.

As I've mentioned before, extreme pressure and temperature tests have been done and no appreciable change in decay rates have been found. Leaching can be controlled as long as the properties of the layers the fossils are found in is known. Multiple strata does require long times to solidify. A single flood would not explain the evidence of tilt followed by erosion followed by sediment deposition followed by lava. Nor would it explain the lack of very distinctive pillow lavas that should occur if everything was water covered.

"fossil fish scream out rapid burial and preservation/hardening, the are preserved with no sign of decay.

Conditions for this to happen are observed today. It does not take a flood for this to happen.

307 posted on 11/03/2005 1:20:30 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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