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To: b_sharp

"If you observed a human child using a stick to check the depths of a stream being crossed what would you think of his/her intelligence?"

I would wonder why his/her parents weren't watching him/her near the water.

And writing goes back much farther than a few hundred years.

Look, if you want to be an ape, that's fine. I prefer to be a human.


157 posted on 11/02/2005 1:36:55 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
"I would wonder why his/her parents weren't watching him/her near the water.

That doesn't answer the question. Is it a sign of high intelligence for a human child to, on her own, figure out that a stick will help her avoid the deep spots in the stream? Yes or no?

"And writing goes back much farther than a few hundred years.

In our culture yes. However many cultures did not develop writing as a method of storage until much later. An example is the northern plains aboriginals who passed on stories verbally and used other methods of communication than writing. Does that make them less than human?

"Look, if you want to be an ape, that's fine. I prefer to be a human.

You are an ape and a human, as am I.

190 posted on 11/02/2005 2:04:40 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: mlc9852
Look, if you want to be an ape, that's fine. I prefer to be a human.

False dichotomy.

You are a human, and an ape.

A relatively hairless, clever, tool-using ape. But an ape, nonetheless.

199 posted on 11/02/2005 2:27:30 PM PST by Palisades (Cthulhu in 2008! Why settle for the lesser evil?)
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