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For sale: Albania’s MiG aircraft fleet
Reuters ^ | Nov 1, 2005

Posted on 11/02/2005 4:16:07 AM PST by mark502inf

TIRANA, Albania - Albania’s antiquated air force of Soviet-designed MiG aircraft, which killed 35 Albanian pilots but no enemies, is finally on its way to the museum and the scrapheap, the armed forces chief said on Tuesday.

“If anyone wants to buy them, they are welcome,” Gen. Pellumb Qazimi told Reuters. Some potential Western buyers “wanted to turn them into bars,” he said.

For the Albanian military, the general said, the future lies in a fleet of modern helicopters able to “interact with the planes of the (NATO) alliance we want to join.”

A satellite of Soviet Union and China during the first decades of the Cold War, the Stalinist regime of Enver Hoxha was given a fleet that grew to 125 MiGs to repel what Qazimi called “a classic total aggression” from the West.

The first MiG-15 squadron arrived from the Soviet Union in 1951 and it had seen action in Korea, said Perikli Teta, Albania’s air force engineer-in-chief for 17 years.

“You could still see where the bullet holes had been repaired,” Teta told Reuters. The 15s were followed in the 1970s and 1980s by scores of MiG-17s, or Frescoes in NATO parlance, and MiG-19s, known to the alliance as Farmers.

All have the stubby swept-back wings, cigar shaped fuselage and nose intake of the iconic communist Cold War interceptor.

Glory days: Rattling Tirana Albanian pilots were praised in the government-controlled press but had little glory to their credit other than flying low down Tirana’s main boulevard, rattling windowpanes and startling citizens with their supersonic booms.

Qazimi said the planes were simply a deterrent, “a show of force” in a region bristling with arms. On one occasion they forced a landing by a retired U.S. airman who had lost direction on his way to a holiday in Rome.

Teta said MiG flights were curtailed after the fall of communism in 1991, because Albania, Europe’s poorest country at that time, could not afford 1,000 liters of fuel per flight.

At the dawn of democracy, some sat forlorn under tattered canvas covers at Tirana’s Rinas airport, their wheels deep in mud and their rusty wings tilted.

Beware of Chinese version Qazimi said some would be going to museums, a few would be kept for instruction and others sold for scrap. None would be sold for military purposes.

The Chinese-built versions were dangerous, Teta said.

“I think it was always the aircraft that was to blame (for the fatal accidents),” he said. “One accident last year was exactly the same as one that happened 20 years ago.”

With the MiGs out of the sky, Teta now worries about Albania’s creaking helicopters of Soviet make. “Whenever I hear their engine, I follow it until it lands,” he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airforce; albania; jetsforsale; migs; wildblueyonder

1 posted on 11/02/2005 4:16:08 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

Proof that if you leave anything parked in a bad neighborhood, sooner or later it's going to end up on blocks.

Typical Communism. Their people were starving, but instead of investing in the means to help them, and letting private enterprise find ways to snap them out of it, the government blew its money on nowhere-near-state-of-the-art fighters to look impressive. Lucky for the Albanian Air Force that they never had to fight in those relics...MiG-19s or -17s against modern fighters would be a slaughter.

}:-)4


2 posted on 11/02/2005 4:21:54 AM PST by Moose4 (Liberals and vampires: Both like death, both hate crosses, and both are bloodsuckers.)
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To: mark502inf
"The Chinese-built versions were dangerous, Teta said." Good to know as we may end up coming up against the Chinese MiG-19s and their modified MiG-21 over the Pacific in the near future.
3 posted on 11/02/2005 4:32:32 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Not likely. If we tangle at all, it will be with advanced Sukhois that China is buying from Russia.


4 posted on 11/02/2005 4:34:36 AM PST by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: mark502inf
On one occasion they forced a landing by a retired U.S. airman

Probably was a good match for the Albanian air force.

Thanks for the post this morning.

5 posted on 11/02/2005 4:35:43 AM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: mark502inf; zot; Interesting Times; Hurtgen

Thanks for the post Mark.

"The first MiG-15 squadron arrived from the Soviet Union in 1951 and it had seen action in Korea...You could still see where the bullet holes had been repaired,” Teta told Reuters." says it all. Those were Russian, not North Korean or Chinese pilots we faced over the Yalu.


6 posted on 11/02/2005 4:49:48 AM PST by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: mark502inf

I wonder how much they want for one of those lightly used Mig 19s. My commute would be a lot shorter at 900 mph. Probably wouldn't let me keep the guns, tho...

Notice they did not give the NATO name of the Mig 15? I wonder why?


7 posted on 11/02/2005 4:56:20 AM PST by gridlock (Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
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To: mark502inf

Hmmm... Perhaps Albania might be interested in some used F-16s...


8 posted on 11/02/2005 4:58:27 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

BUMP!


9 posted on 11/02/2005 5:19:31 AM PST by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: GreyFriar
Those were Russian, not North Korean or Chinese pilots we faced over the Yalu.

Good catch, nice insight.

10 posted on 11/02/2005 6:04:59 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

or perhaps some spitballs?


11 posted on 11/02/2005 6:19:49 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: mark502inf

I wonder how much MiG 19s go for? Be nice to have your own supersonic fighter... Have to buy 3-5 of 'em to get (and keep) one in the air, though.


12 posted on 11/02/2005 6:28:01 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Little Ray

You know, that's not a bad idea. Ebay, anyone?


13 posted on 11/02/2005 8:15:06 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

There's more than enough people here to raise the cash and qualified pilots to fly them.

Just think of how effective FR would be if organized freeps had air cover. :-)


14 posted on 11/02/2005 8:17:10 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. Maybe they should auction these MIGs on eBay.


15 posted on 11/02/2005 10:57:08 AM PST by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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To: GreyFriar

It was a combination of all three nationalities pilots. Not solely Russian.


16 posted on 11/25/2005 6:50:17 AM PST by Tommyjo
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