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Newspaper Industry At Tipping Point; Online Media Stealing Readers and Ad Revenues
News Busters ^ | 11/1/05 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 11/01/2005 8:11:22 PM PST by Only Waxing

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To: Real Cynic No More
Years ago when I lived in Dallas, I liked to read the Dallas Morning News

Years ago, Dallas had two papers. The Morning News was for moderates, the other paper was for leftists. Then the Morning News bought the other paper, shut it down, and lurched to the left.

Of course, now the DMN markets itself to a generation which doesn't read papers, while alienating folks who would, if there was any reason to.

A couple of years ago, they did a comics survey. Folks didn't want the modern, 'edgy' strips, but the paper went ahead with its agenda.

21 posted on 11/01/2005 10:01:08 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Only Waxing

what does it mean, 'sadly'?


22 posted on 11/01/2005 10:20:36 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: Only Waxing

If I didn't need local sports coverage for my business, I wouldn't get the St. Louis Post-Discrap...wish there was a "local St. Louis" Freeper-type site!


23 posted on 11/01/2005 10:22:47 PM PST by demsux
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To: Only Waxing
Prophetic article from 1996 predicted the demise of Mainstream newspapers by 2006. Things are right on schedule.

Mainstream Newspapers, R.I.P.


24 posted on 11/01/2005 10:32:48 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: theBuckwheat

Geese Buckwheat,

I know an ex-employer I want to send this to.

But of course, I never found "burning the bridges" behind me ever accomplished anything.

So I'll refrain.

However, I wish some folks I know could read this one.


25 posted on 11/01/2005 10:48:46 PM PST by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: McGavin999

It really is a shame, it didn't have to be this way. After all, there was nothing more relaxing than sitting outside in the morning drinking coffee and reading the paper. Then they had to go and spoil everything by pusing an agenda intead of just reporting the news.
That relaxing habit went from a comforting act to anger at the blatant one sided presentation of the news and then eventually, you just stopped doing something you'd done everyday for years because it simply wasn't worth it.






Yeah, everything you said. Sadly-I really used to also enjoy the Sunday Funnies. Was the high point of my week when I was a kid. Even kep it up as an adult-until I noticed one day that there wasn't any "Smilin' Jack" or "Buck Rogers" or "Tarzan" any more. Or "The Katzenjammer Kids" or "Moon Mullins." They'd been replaced with crap like "Fuzzy" and "For Better Or For Worse" , "Funky Winkerbean" ,etc. All pushing a liberal or PC agenda(or just plain stupid) , rather than just trying to be funny. They took away Andy Capp's cigarette, etc. About the only funny ones left were "Blondie" & Hagar The Horrible", so I just stopped getting the Sunday paper. It had even permeated the comics. Sad. I do have to say, though, in all fairness, "Doonesbury" was funny at first-until Trudaeu (sp?) took his hiatus. Once he came back from it, the strip just became his personal soapbox.


26 posted on 11/01/2005 10:56:00 PM PST by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: Thombo2

Oh No.

And here I have been thinking seriously about going back to work fulltime, or somewhat fulltime. Even have an interview lined up next week.

Freelancing for several years spoiled me, and the internet is so much more reliable than the "so called" mainstream, media.

Oh well, I guess I'll just adapt to the moment at hand :)



27 posted on 11/01/2005 11:02:48 PM PST by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: Only Waxing

Awesome news! This brings joy to my heart.
I want the socialist "mainstream" press to die and be dead forever.


28 posted on 11/01/2005 11:04:33 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: girlangler

"The internet is so much more reliable than the "so called" msm."I agree.My area is covered by the StPete Times and the Tampa Tribune.I no longer subscribe to either paper.Just got fed up with the leftist anti-us bias.Girl Angler?Is that your specialty?Now i have been known to sneak a peek at the fishing report and misc sports....but as far as hard news is concerned,it's trash.Good luck with the interview:)


29 posted on 11/02/2005 9:00:27 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: Thombo2
The area left wing MSM paper sent me their regular letter asking me to subscribe. I responded " If I wanted a left wing rag I would subscribe to the Daily Worker ".

Of course it was water off a ducks back but I felt good.

30 posted on 11/02/2005 9:08:07 AM PST by Voltage
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To: McGavin999
It really is a shame, it didn't have to be this way. After all, there was nothing more relaxing than sitting outside in the morning drinking coffee and reading the paper. Then they had to go and spoil everything by pusing an agenda intead of just reporting the news.

That relaxing habit went from a comforting act to anger at the blatant one sided presentation of the news and then eventually, you just stopped doing something you'd done everyday for years because it simply wasn't worth it.

Why don't Publishers understand what's happening?

31 posted on 11/02/2005 9:31:23 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Voltage

"Of course it was water off a ducks back...."Same here.The Trib didn't lose any sleep when i declined to renew my subscription,but this is a national phenomena,hundreds of thousands like us who simply refuse to be indoctrinated by leftist tripe.Good riddens.RIP


32 posted on 11/02/2005 9:34:35 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: Thombo2

Thombo2,

Although I spent years working on newspapers (mostly small dailies)as editor/reporter, I now rely on the internet for my news.

When it became really clear how the MSM ignored news was when the young people in Iran were on the verge of a revolution, and it didn't even get noticed by the MSM here in the U.S. Everything I read about it was on the net.

Obviously I am one of those rare conservative journalists. But there are a few of us out here who still believe in reporting, rather than interpreting, the news.

I am a girlangler, and fishing is an obsession for me. Also do a little hunting.

I've been an outdoor writer for years and was involved in the launch of several small outdoor magazines over the past decade. I am hoping to convince a few of the small newspapers in my area to let me produce an outdoor page for them, since we are surrounded by a lot of public hunting land and lots of bass, trout and striper waters.

However, it seems the editors/publishers, sports editors nowdays don't even realize how important the outdoors is to their readers in an area like this. If it doesn't involve a football, basketball, or golf club they seem to be clueless.

I convinced a small daily to start an outdoor page once, when I showed them the number of fishing/hunting license holders in the county. There were more than they had subscribers. And it helped to point out that most of their current/potential advertisers were avid sportsmen.

Wish me luck. I am a freelancer now and if I can pull these off it will be a good thing for me and the area.


33 posted on 11/02/2005 10:05:22 AM PST by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: Only Waxing
Oh, this is so tragic!

This is so woe inducing!

This is just so disheartening. *sob* I do not know when my heart has ever been more dis.

Har-de-har-de-frickin-har!

34 posted on 11/02/2005 10:11:58 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: girlangler

i would be happy to send it without getting you involved......


35 posted on 11/02/2005 10:36:25 AM PST by knews_hound (i know my typing sucks, i do it one handed ! (caps are especially tough))
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To: knews_hound

Knews_hound,

HeHe, are you referring to sending the article to the ex-employer?

I already sent it to them. I still do some writing for them and just sent it as a FYI thing.

I have been known to be notoriously honest, which gets me in trouble sometimes. But I believe honesty is the best approach.

And when all else fails, go to work for their competitors!!!!


36 posted on 11/02/2005 11:12:10 AM PST by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: girlangler

i delight in sending such things to members of the media.

i also make sure to include a link to my blog to make the point that their days are numbered because of people like me.

Cheers,

knews hound

http://knewshound.blogspot.com/


37 posted on 11/02/2005 11:19:51 AM PST by knews_hound (i know my typing sucks, i do it one handed ! (caps are especially tough))
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To: girlangler
We have an every day outdoors page in our paper. Its in the sports section. BassPro and other outdoor businesses absolutely pay for that section. In fact they are making good money on that advertising.
38 posted on 11/02/2005 11:26:20 AM PST by AGreatPer
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To: AGreatPer

AGreatPer,

Must be a big daily. Really I am a little surprised because Cabela's and a lot of the big outdoor retail chains are now producing their own outdoor publications and selling them on the newstands right next to the other OD publications.

All the more reason the smaller mom and pop bait shops, bow shops, and sporting goods stores need to advertise. They also get a lot of competition from WalMart and K Mart.

What they need to emphasize in their advertising is service. The person at WalMart selling you that fishing license has no earthly idea where the fish are biting, or what you need to make your hunting bow better.

Also I will pitch the editor/publishers here on the fact that about 98 percent of hunters/anglers drive pickup trucks and four-wheel drive vehicles. Car/truck dealers can get a TARGETED audience on an outdoor page or magazine. Just because the nearest big daily paper has about 300,000 Sunday readership doesn't mean they have 300,000 people who buy boats or trucks.

Boat dealers obviously need to advertise on an outdoor page. And boats and trucks need to be insured. And on and on.

No, for some reason newspapers across the country have dropped coverage of the outdoors in the past few decades. I belong to several OD media organizations and it has been quite obvious the markets for outdoor writers are shrinking.

Bass Pro Shops just built a store near here, and I heard (will verify soon) Cabelas is looking at some property here. When they locate to an area it says something about their local market, which should wake up newspaper publishers. They don't locate in an area unless there are MANY fishing/hunting license holders/customers.



39 posted on 11/02/2005 12:30:25 PM PST by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: Only Waxing

It's so simple, too. My wife and I very much want to subscribe to our local paper (Gannett's Westchester Journal News) for the local news, the high school sports, the classifieds, the coupons, the movie clock, kids' activities, on and on.

BUT WE CANNOT simply because they have to force-feed their left-wing garbage down our throats. Day after day, relentlessly, ad nauseum.

Deliberately pissing off young, affluent upwardly-mobile families (with a potential new generation of young readers also in the house) is a colossally stupid business model.


40 posted on 11/02/2005 12:46:43 PM PST by Jhensy
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