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"The city does not turn a blind eye to drug activity," she said. "And we as a council certainly aren't told of these things in advance. But there seemed to be a risk factor with these tactics and so many innocent bystanders."

Aspen, 2nd home to many extremely wealthy entertainers, sports heros and public figures. The shefiff in Aspen is obviously "protecting" his famous neighbors from the possibility of any "problems" that could cause them (and the city) bad publicity.

Snip: In November, the average asking price for a place in the Aspen area, where Kevin Costner, Martina Navratilova and Michael Dell have homes, was nearly $5 million. Topping the price list is a $27 million lot that includes a yet-to-be-built 18,000-square-foot home to be furnished with $1 million worth of antiques imported from Europe. Two homes are listed for $18 million apiece. One is set on 6.75 acres with frontage along the Roaring Fork River. The other has a trout pound and 2 1/2 acres.

Snip: The four-star Hotel Jerome in Aspen began offering a 10-night holiday vacation package that includes unlimited ski passes and private lessons, an on-call masseuses, a chauffeur and a Maybach car that sells for no less than $375,000 that guest gets to keep. The price tag: a mere $1 million.

4,460 posted on 12/09/2005 7:56:04 PM PST by MamaDearest
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A more in depth story concerning the China massacre:



Chinese protesters report a massacre


SHANGHAI Residents of a fishing village near Hong Kong said that as many as 20 people had been killed by the paramilitary police in an unusually violent clash that marked an escalation in the widespread social protests that have roiled the Chinese countryside.

Villagers said that as many as 50 other residents remain unaccounted for since the shooting that occurred this week as villagers staged a protest over government land appropriations. It is the largest known use of force by security forces against ordinary citizens since the killings around Tiananmen Square in 1989. That death toll remains unknown, but is estimated to be in the hundreds.

The violence began after dark in the town of Dongzhou on Tuesday evening. Terrified residents said their hamlet has remained occupied by thousands of security forces, who have blocked off all access roads and are reportedly arresting residents who attempt to leave the area after the heavily armed assault.

"From about 7 p.m. the police started firing tear gas into the crowd, but this failed to scare people," said a resident who gave his name only as Li and claimed to have been at the scene, where a relative of his was killed.

"Later, we heard more than 10 explosions, and thought they were just detonators, so nobody was scared. At about 8 p.m. they started using guns, shooting bullets into the ground, but not really targeting anybody.

"Finally, at about 10 p.m. they started killing people."

The use of live ammunition to put down a protest is almost unheard of in China, where the authorities have come to rely on rapid deployment of huge numbers of security forces, tear gas, water cannons and other nonlethal measures.

But the Chinese authorities have become increasingly nervous in recent months over the proliferation of demonstrations across the countryside, particularly in heavily industrialized eastern provinces like Guangdong, Zhejiang and Jiansu. By the government's tally there were 74,000 riots or other significant public disturbances in 2004, a big jump from previous years.

The villagers in Dongzhou said their dispute with the authorities had begun with a conflict over plans by a power company to build a coal-fired generator in their area, which they feared would cause heavy pollution. Farmers said they had not been compensated for the use of the land for the plant.

Others said plans to reclaim land by filling in a local bay as part of the power plant project were unacceptable because people have made their livelihoods there as fishermen for generations. Already, villagers complained, work crews have been blasting a nearby mountainside for rubble for the landfill.

A small group of villagers was delegated to complain to the authorities about the plant in July, but they were arrested, infuriating other residents and encouraging others to join the protest movement.

On Dec. 6, while villagers were mounting a sit-in demonstration, the police made a number of arrests, bringing people out into the streets, where they managed to detain several officers. In response, hundreds of law enforcement agents were rushed to the scene.

Everybody, young and old, "went out to watch," said one man who claimed his cousin had been killed by a police officer's bullet in the forehead. "We didn't expect they were so evil. The farmers had no means to resist them."

Early reports from the village said the police opened fire only after villagers began throwing homemade bombs and other missiles, but villagers reached by telephone on Friday denied this, saying that a few farmers had launched ordinary fireworks at the police as part of their protest.

"Those were not bombs, they were fireworks, the kind that fly up into the sky," said one witness reached by telephone. "The organizers didn't have any money, so someone bought fireworks and placed them there. At the moment the trouble started many of the demonstrators were holding them, and of those who held fireworks, almost everyone was killed."

Other witnesses estimated that 10 people were killed immediately in the first volley of automatic gunfire. "I live not far from the scene, and I was running as fast as I could," said one witness, who declined to give his name.

"I dragged one of the people they killed, a man in his 30s who was shot in his chest. Initially I thought he might survive, because he was still breathing, but he was panting heavily, and as soon as I pulled him aside, he died."

The witness said that he, too, had come under fire when the police saw him going to the aid of the dying man. The Chinese government has yet to issue a statement about the incident, nor has it been reported in the state media.

Reached by telephone, an official in the city of Shanwei, which has jurisdiction over the village, said, "Yes, there was an incident, but we don't know the details." The official said an official announcement would be made Saturday.

Villagers said that in addition to the regular security forces, the authorities had enlisted thugs from local organized crime groups. "They had knives and sticks in their hands, and they were two or three layers thick, lining the road," one man said.

Like the Dongzhou incident itself, most of the thousands of riots and public disturbances recorded in China this year have involved environmental, property rights and land use issues. Among other problems, in trying to come to grips with the growing rural unrest, the Chinese government is wrestling with a yawning gap in incomes between farmers and urban dwellers, and rampant corruption in local government, where unaccountable officials deal away communal property rights, often for their own profit.

Finally, mobile telephone technology has made it easier for people in rural China to organize, communicating news to one another by short messages, and increasingly allowing them to stay in touch with members of nongovernmental organizations in big cities.

Residents said that after the demonstration was suppressed a senior Communist Party official came to the hamlet from nearby Shanwei and addressed residents with a megaphone.

"Shanwei and Dongzhou are still good friends," the official said. "We're not here against you. We are here to make the construction of the Red Sea Bay better.

Later, the official reportedly told visitors, "all of the families who have people who died must send a representative to the police for a solution."

On Friday, a group of 100 or so bereaved villagers gathered at a bridge leading into the town, briefly blocking access to security forces, hoisting a white banner whose black-ink characters read: "The dead suffered a wrong. Uphold justice."

SHANGHAI Residents of a fishing village near Hong Kong said that as many as 20 people had been killed by the paramilitary police in an unusually violent clash that marked an escalation in the widespread social protests that have roiled the Chinese countryside.

Villagers said that as many as 50 other residents remain unaccounted for since the shooting that occurred this week as villagers staged a protest over government land appropriations. It is the largest known use of force by security forces against ordinary citizens since the killings around Tiananmen Square in 1989. That death toll remains unknown, but is estimated to be in the hundreds.

The violence began after dark in the town of Dongzhou on Tuesday evening. Terrified residents said their hamlet has remained occupied by thousands of security forces, who have blocked off all access roads and are reportedly arresting residents who attempt to leave the area after the heavily armed assault.

"From about 7 p.m. the police started firing tear gas into the crowd, but this failed to scare people," said a resident who gave his name only as Li and claimed to have been at the scene, where a relative of his was killed.

"Later, we heard more than 10 explosions, and thought they were just detonators, so nobody was scared. At about 8 p.m. they started using guns, shooting bullets into the ground, but not really targeting anybody.

"Finally, at about 10 p.m. they started killing people."

The use of live ammunition to put down a protest is almost unheard of in China, where the authorities have come to rely on rapid deployment of huge numbers of security forces, tear gas, water cannons and other nonlethal measures.

But the Chinese authorities have become increasingly nervous in recent months over the proliferation of demonstrations across the countryside, particularly in heavily industrialized eastern provinces like Guangdong, Zhejiang and Jiansu. By the government's tally there were 74,000 riots or other significant public disturbances in 2004, a big jump from previous years.

The villagers in Dongzhou said their dispute with the authorities had begun with a conflict over plans by a power company to build a coal-fired generator in their area, which they feared would cause heavy pollution. Farmers said they had not been compensated for the use of the land for the plant.

Others said plans to reclaim land by filling in a local bay as part of the power plant project were unacceptable because people have made their livelihoods there as fishermen for generations. Already, villagers complained, work crews have been blasting a nearby mountainside for rubble for the landfill.

A small group of villagers was delegated to complain to the authorities about the plant in July, but they were arrested, infuriating other residents and encouraging others to join the protest movement.

On Dec. 6, while villagers were mounting a sit-in demonstration, the police made a number of arrests, bringing people out into the streets, where they managed to detain several officers. In response, hundreds of law enforcement agents were rushed to the scene.

Everybody, young and old, "went out to watch," said one man who claimed his cousin had been killed by a police officer's bullet in the forehead. "We didn't expect they were so evil. The farmers had no means to resist them."

Early reports from the village said the police opened fire only after villagers began throwing homemade bombs and other missiles, but villagers reached by telephone on Friday denied this, saying that a few farmers had launched ordinary fireworks at the police as part of their protest.

"Those were not bombs, they were fireworks, the kind that fly up into the sky," said one witness reached by telephone. "The organizers didn't have any money, so someone bought fireworks and placed them there. At the moment the trouble started many of the demonstrators were holding them, and of those who held fireworks, almost everyone was killed."

Other witnesses estimated that 10 people were killed immediately in the first volley of automatic gunfire. "I live not far from the scene, and I was running as fast as I could," said one witness, who declined to give his name.

"I dragged one of the people they killed, a man in his 30s who was shot in his chest. Initially I thought he might survive, because he was still breathing, but he was panting heavily, and as soon as I pulled him aside, he died."

The witness said that he, too, had come under fire when the police saw him going to the aid of the dying man. The Chinese government has yet to issue a statement about the incident, nor has it been reported in the state media.

Reached by telephone, an official in the city of Shanwei, which has jurisdiction over the village, said, "Yes, there was an incident, but we don't know the details." The official said an official announcement would be made Saturday.

Villagers said that in addition to the regular security forces, the authorities had enlisted thugs from local organized crime groups. "They had knives and sticks in their hands, and they were two or three layers thick, lining the road," one man said.

Like the Dongzhou incident itself, most of the thousands of riots and public disturbances recorded in China this year have involved environmental, property rights and land use issues. Among other problems, in trying to come to grips with the growing rural unrest, the Chinese government is wrestling with a yawning gap in incomes between farmers and urban dwellers, and rampant corruption in local government, where unaccountable officials deal away communal property rights, often for their own profit.

Finally, mobile telephone technology has made it easier for people in rural China to organize, communicating news to one another by short messages, and increasingly allowing them to stay in touch with members of nongovernmental organizations in big cities.

Residents said that after the demonstration was suppressed a senior Communist Party official came to the hamlet from nearby Shanwei and addressed residents with a megaphone.

"Shanwei and Dongzhou are still good friends," the official said. "We're not here against you. We are here to make the construction of the Red Sea Bay better.

Later, the official reportedly told visitors, "all of the families who have people who died must send a representative to the police for a solution."

On Friday, a group of 100 or so bereaved villagers gathered at a bridge leading into the town, briefly blocking access to security forces, hoisting a white banner whose black-ink characters read: "The dead suffered a wrong. Uphold justice."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/12/09/news/china.php#


4,463 posted on 12/09/2005 8:59:31 PM PST by Founding Father (Fry Tookie Williams)
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To: MamaDearest

Aspen.

Home of illegals to serve the rich.
Home of drug dealers and users.

Good hiding place for terrorists, as they are protected from the Police.

I did the first google for a laugh, but there are things to be read in each search....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&client=googlet&q=al-Qaeda+cells+in+Colorado%3F&spell=1

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=al-Qaida%20cells%20in%20Colorado%3F

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=al-qaeda%20cell%20in%20Aspen%2C%20Colorado

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=Do%20terrorists%20hide%20in%20%20Aspen%2C%20Colorado%3F

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=terrorists%20in%20Aspen%2C%20Colorado

Can you hear me laughing, this search fully explains the article that I posted on the drug bust in Aspen.....LOL

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=crime%20in%20Aspen%2C%20Colorado

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=gangs%20in%20%20Aspen%2C%20Colorado

http://www.google.com/search?q=drugs+in++Aspen%2C+Colorado&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&client=googlet


NOTE: this will not surprise us, but a Marine, not active, just phoned Gunny Bob, they were talking about the war on terror, he said that he had found the "raw FBI information, less than a week old" on the internet.

G. Bob asked if he called the FBI, he said that he had called his old Sargent at Camp LeJune, where he had worked with the same type info, raw and uncut, when he was active, the Sgt. will handle it.

This is a fine example of a traitor, active and working for the wrong side.


4,467 posted on 12/09/2005 9:27:18 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (THE ENEMY IS WITHIN!!Google search: DSA members in Congress (finds elected communists.))
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