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Thanks for wanting to talk to me, maybe some day.

You will have your own stories, when you reach old age.

I have reached the point, that I am out of date....

Discovered that I really don't know what an I-Pod is, laughing, as I also discovered that I don't even care....

Saw them in a Walmart ad, have a slight idea of their use.

Life was so simple 50 years ago, you had Crisco and Lard,
butter and margarine, that the kids got to mix the color into, came after WW2.

Take a look at the survival searches that I posted, no I didn't live in the Civil War times, but I was about 22, before I got over the thoughts of "The South Will Rise Again".

Had I been born sooner, I would have come to the Gold Fields and done so in a covered wagon......LOL

"Discovered that I really don't know what an I-Pod is"

A hard drive with fancy programming and it's iPod - there now you are up to date :-)

RGR on the Crisco and Lard .... ahhh for the 40's again.

Life was so simple 50 years ago, you had Crisco and Lard, butter and margarine, that the kids got to mix the color into, came after WW2.

Funny, I heard a caller on local talk radio the other day wishing she could find a "Joy of Cooking" from the 40's so she could bake a cake for her 90-year-old grandfather's birthday, the way he used to get them.

Dissident Watch: Arash Sigarchi

by Rachel Hoff
Middle East Quarterly
Fall 2005
http://www.meforum.org/article/792

On January 17, 2005, Iranian security forces arrested 28-year-old
Iranian journalist and weblogger Arash Sigarchi for espionage and
insulting leaders of the Islamic Republic. Sigarchi, editor of the daily
Gilan Emrooz (Gilan[1] Today), had antagonized regime officials with
outspoken dissent on two blogs, Panjareh-yi Eltehab (Window of
Anguish) to which he was a regular contributor, as well as his own blog,
http://www.sigarchi.com/blog.

Sigarchi was aware of the dangers of his actions. His posts chronicled
the arrests of fellow bloggers. He spoke out against the abuse of two
fellow bloggers, Shahram Rafihzadeh and Rozbeh Mir Ebrahimi. In 2004,
Iranian authorities arrested and beat more than twenty other blogging
dissidents. Sigarchi had himself been harassed by the police who
detained him for several days in August 2004 after he posted online an
article with photos of a dissident rally in Tehran.[2]

Nevertheless, Iranian dissidents are increasingly penning blogs to voice
criticism of the Islamic Republic and to push for freedom and democracy.
With an estimated 100,000 active Iranian blogs, Persian is now tied with
French as the second most common blogging language after English.[3]

Sigarchi's most recent arrest coincided with an Iranian government
crackdown on blogging. Sa‘id Mortazavi, Tehran's chief prosecutor,
ordered Internet service providers to block access to several blogs
including Sigarchi's site.[4]

On February 22, a revolutionary tribunal in Gilan sentenced Sigarchi to
fourteen years in prison.[5] On March 18, a court in the provincial
capital of Rasht released Sigarchi on bail pending an appeal. However,
four other prominent Iranian bloggers and web journalists—Mojtaba
Saminejad, Najmeh Omidparvar, Mohammad Reza Nasab Abdolahi, and
Mojtaba Lotfi—remain in prison.[6]

Blogging has revolutionized dissent in Iran. By providing private citizens
a public voice, blogs may be the most powerful tool in the dissidents'
arsenal. As an Iranian blogger known as Saena wrote, "Weblogs are one
weapon that even the Islamic Republic cannot beat."[7] As the cases of
Arash Sigarchi and other imprisoned bloggers show, though, the Iranian
regime is trying to crush these new outlets of democratic dissent.
Throughout the Middle East, the race is on between journalists opening
new websites and regimes such as the Islamic Republic trying to censor
cyberspace. While Western governments have a stake in the bloggers'
success, neither the White House nor the State Department have spoken
out publicly in support of Sigarchi and his colleagues.

Rachel Hoff is a research assistant at the American Enterprise
Institute.

[1] Gilan is a province in northwestern Iran, bordering the Caspian Sea.
[2] BBC Monitoring World Media, Jan. 21, 2005.
[3] Time Magazine, May 9, 2005.
[4] BBC Monitoring World Media, Jan. 21, 2005.
[5] BBC Monitoring Middle East, Feb. 23, 2005.
[6] BBC Monitoring World Media, Mar. 18, 2005.
[7] Time Magazine, May 9, 2005.

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An interesting comment/opinion and question, from a mailing list.....
granny.......

ubject:
[Intelforum] Internet Jihadis turning against
Zarqarwi?

Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:51:57 -0500

To: intelforum@lists101.his.com
Subject: RE: Internet Jihadis turning against Zarqarwi?

Shaun:

Actually, I believe that internal criticism within the jihadi
movement of attacks aimed at Muslim civilians - or at least causing
significant Muslim casualties - has received a good deal of scholarly
attention in the last few months, at least in fora discussing Middle
Eastern issues. This includes the comments in the recent letter
which may or may not have been written by Zawahiri to Zarqawi which
gently sought to explain that the latter's penchant for slaughtering
Shiite civilians and cutting the heads off captive westerners were
bad p.r. for the movement in general.

In any event, such criticism should not be construed either as a turn
against Zarquawi or a sign of significant schisms - defined as
divisions which might impede operational tempos or effectiveness -
within the movement. To say so is to place far too much weight on a
slender reed.

The criticisms are tactical, rather than strategic, and I believe are
driven more by a desire to make the movement more effective rather
than out of any squeamishness about killing civilians. Put another
way, the criticism is not about killing civilians, but WHICH
civilians are being killed. Criticisms of Zarqawis tactics have, for
example, stated that a better approach would be to concentrate
resources on mounting more 9/11 style attacks.

You are right to point out that revolutionary movements have debated
the ethics of killing civilians in the past. I am unaware of any
instance, however, in which such debates have actually led to a
change in practices in the field. If anyone can comment further on
this point I would be very interested to hear of examples to the
contrary.

Robinder Bhatty
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UK News UK News | Showbiz News Islamic extremist rally calling for Islamic Britain is banned Thursday, 17th November 2005, 14:31 Category: Crime and Punishment _____ LIFE STYLE EXTRA (UK) - Leaflets showing a Muslim fighter holding a rocket launcher outside 10 Downing Street are being probed by detectives amid claims they are linked to exiled preacher of hate Sheikh Omar Bakri. The sickening pamphlets shows a black Islamic flag flying over Parliament and invite people to a rally in east London. But shocked council officials and police discovered that the hall booked for the meeting was made under a false name apparently to celebrate the religious festival of Eid. And officers revealed that the man behind the meeting is Abdul Muhid, a leading member of the Saviour Sect set up by Omar Bakri after his group Al-Muhajiroun was disbanded. The group has justified the suicide terror attacks on July 7 in which 52 people were murdered as they were not innocent because they did not follow Islamic law. The group had booked a community centre in Walthamstow claiming they wanted to celebrate the religious festival of Eid, but the leaflets declared "it is only a short matter of time before the black flag of Islam flies high above 10 Downing Street." Muhid, 23, has twice been arrested over violence at rallies over the past year and now faces a police probe into the distribution of the flyers. The leaflet for the banned rally on November 6 which was to have been held at The Asian Centre in Walthamstow had the headline "Islamic State for Britain. There can be no negotiations." The leaflets go on to claim with 2,000 mosques, countless Madrassahs, Muslim Schools, Halal butchers and restaurants up and down the country, "Britain is already on the verge of becoming an Islamic State." "The revival of Islamic awareness amongst the Muslims in the UK is at its fastest pace and more and more Muslims and non-Muslims are realising that there can be no negotiations with Islam, no negotiations with the implementation of the Khalafah and the Shari'ah law, it is an absolute inevitable." Muhid, from Stoke Newington, east London, was last arrested when he was part of a group of 50 men using loud hailers to berate passer-bys in Southall on May 1 this year. When police arrived to disperse the group, a scuffle broke out with some of the supporters. He was arrested for violent disorder and assaulting a police officer in Chingford on July 13 and quizzed, but charges were dropped because of lack of evidence. And he was arrested for inciting racial hatred after a man complained of homophobic and racist comments made when Muhid was in a group of eight manning a religious stall in Walthamstow on September 14 last year. He appeared at Waltham Forest Magistrates Court and bailed, but again charges were dropped by the CPS. A police source said: "Muhid is always in possession of the leaflets and he has only ever been seen with a loudhailer or distributing the leaflets at market stalls. We don't know if he is making them but we assume he is because he is always at the centre of things." A police spokeswoman confirmed the group was now under investigation over the controversial flyers. She said: "The first we heard about the event was from the council on October 23.The Asian Centre was booked for 2.30pm on Sunday November 6 and the booking was subsequently cancelled. "An investigation is on-going into the printing and distribution of the leaflets but at this stage there has been no arrests." A Waltham Forest spokeswoman said: "A booking had been made at the Asian Centre for a private party to celebrate Eid. "In light of new information, the Council acted responsibly and cancelled the booking. It is clear that the centre was misled over the details of the booking and what is planned is a rally that is open to the public. "Waltham Forest has a long history of good community relations and the Council takes it duty to promote good relations between people of different racial groups seriously. "We became very concerned that allowing this event to go ahead could lead to a breakdown in community relations. "It is a testament to the close partnership working that exists in the borough that this information was identified and was quickly acted on by both the Police and the Council."

http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=World_News&subsection=Philippines+%26+South+Asia&month=November2005&file=World_News2005112133225.xml

Terror alert in Dhaka over threat of attack
on rally
Web posted at: 11/21/2005 3:32:25
Source ::: Agencies

Dhaka: A terror alert has been sounded in the Bangladeshi capital and
surrounding areas following an intelligence report about possible bomb
attacks on an opposition rally in the city tomorrow.

According to the intelligence report, the banned Islamist outfit, the
Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) blamed for the August 17
serial blasts, has planned a series of bomb attacks in Dhaka. Different
groups of the militant outfit are reportedly trying to send a huge
quantity of high explosives to Dhaka through land or riverine routes.

The JMB is also trying to gather its highly trained cadres along with
members of the “suicide squad” to accomplish their mission. The JMB
might go for setting off high-powered explosives in Dhaka to eliminate
opposition and ruling party leaders and senior officials.

Keeping the intelligence reports in mind, a security blanket has been
thrown around the capital city since Saturday evening and surveillance
increased at all entrance and exit points by setting up check posts. The
security forces including the para-military forces, the Bangladesh Rifles
(BDR) and Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) have been put on high alert
across the country to prevent any possible terrorist activity by the
suicide bombers of JMB.

Fourteen opposition political parties, headed by the Awami League,
have planned a huge anti-government rally on Tuesday. Political
sources said the opposition parties are likely to issue a one-month
ultimatum to the government to concede to their demands for holding
free and neutral polls under a non-partisan caretaker government.

The opposition has planned to gather 2.5 million people on the day.
The government has decided to deploy 15,000 security personnel for
the rally.

The government is planning to start a month-long “Clean Militant
Operation” across the country aimed at wiping out members of
different banned militant organisations, especially the JMB, according
to The Independent Sunday. The operation will start from this week