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To: Alamo-Girl; Bouilhet; marron
The Light was the object of his metaphor and did not represent merely a phenomenon with some other temporal meaning behind it.

Thanks so much for your kind words, A-G! The Light is not "phenomenal." I've recently been struck by how closely Einstein's remark regarding reality as we experience it -- i.e., it is a "persistent illusion" -- tracks with the meaning of Plato's Myth of the Cave.... In the past you've observed that Einstein really was a Platonist, an unconscious one perhaps, even though he took the "Aristotelian side of the argument" with his friend Godel. I'm pretty sure you are right about this! :^)

572 posted on 11/16/2005 6:19:31 AM PST by betty boop
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop
What are we to understand when you say reality is an illusion? What is the subject reality, and what do you mean when you it is illusion? Do you don't mean that it (whatever it is) deceives? How does it compare to Kant who thinks space is a category of rational intelligence and doesn't belong in empirical phenomena. Are we fair to say that whatever is not in our mind is illusory?

In Christianity, important thinkers have said sin is the inclination to non-being, and that idolatry occurs in the embrace of an illusion. This means illusion is instrinsic to thought, not reality.

And how might this compare to Kant who makes space a category belonging to rational intelligence and not to empirical phenomena?

573 posted on 11/16/2005 6:56:30 AM PST by cornelis (Fecisti nos ad te.)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so very much for the confirmation on Bohr and Plato's meaning of Light in the cave metaphor!

I do have a tendency to look at the trees you know - and Plato was clearly a forest person. LOL!

579 posted on 11/16/2005 7:31:39 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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