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Dems Send the Senate into Closed Session Over Plame Leak
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Posted on 11/01/2005 11:40:50 AM PST by LisaFab

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To: Mo1
Because the Senate Intell Committee already investigated Wilson/Plame and even report a report on it

Durbin and Levin saying that the purpose of the tantrum is to obtain a committment to agree to Phase II of the Iraq/WMD investigation by Intelligence Committee. "Did the Presindet exaggerate intelligence in order to justify military action against Iraq."

461 posted on 11/01/2005 12:32:26 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: EternalHope

I think you just absolutely hit the nail on the head. This is their filibuster on Alito.

I think it's wonderful news for us. Shine a light on the Cockroach Left and watch what the voters do.

In my opinion, more reason to celebrate. The Dims are fighting for their political lives.


462 posted on 11/01/2005 12:32:37 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Stuck on Genius)
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To: marajade
interesting it was just reported phase 2 is already on going by the republicans... they just haven't shared it with the dems

Have they showed up ??

Reporter just asked Levin why they haven't showed up .. Levin says there has never been a vote

Levin says there has never been a copy of the draft and would like to see it

463 posted on 11/01/2005 12:32:47 PM PST by Mo1
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To: pabianice
Man, you scared the hell out of me! I thought you were saying those words in #337.


Geeze ... I almost had a heart attack!



464 posted on 11/01/2005 12:32:47 PM PST by G.Mason
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To: Mo1

durbin.. the prosecutor didn't do what the dems wanted and now they are upset with it and that is why they are doing what they are doing


465 posted on 11/01/2005 12:32:58 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: laxcoach
Then they'll argue that the nation can get by with only eight justices on the Supreme Court for a while, nowhere in the Constitution does it require any number of justices.

-PJ

466 posted on 11/01/2005 12:33:07 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: goldstategop
The Pubs can kill this anytime they want. It only takes a simple majority vote to re-open the session. It takes time to first clear the chamber, then to get everyone back in to vote to re-open.

That's why the Dems say they'll do this every day.

467 posted on 11/01/2005 12:33:11 PM PST by LisaFab
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To: All
PROOF THIS WAS ALL PLANNED BY REID!

Harry Reid's office is sending this via e-mail:

There is no more important decision a country can make than going to war. Last Friday, we clearly saw the efforts and lengths this administration would go to shape our entry into this War. The Senate Democrats went into closed session today to get answers. Some facts below (and key facts on secret session).

Closed Senate Session

· Most important decision a President makes is to put American lives at risk and go to war.

· Many of us supported the decision to invade Iraq based on the national intelligence presented at the time.

· Over the past few months, and vividly last Friday, we’ve learned that we were given bad information. Americans were intentionally deceived.

· White House indictments confirm Republicans tried to silence critics and cover up the real intelligence.

· America deserves answers. National security is at stake.

· If mistakes were made, we need to know. Otherwise, we are doomed to repeat them.

· Republicans committed to investigate how national intelligence was used to set the stage for war.

· Now, they are refusing to keep that commitment. What are they afraid of America learning?

· Republicans must come clean. It is our shared responsibility to be straight with the American people.

· Stakes could not be higher. That is why we are demanding answers through an unprecedented closed Senate session.

· We will not let up until America gets answers.

· Together, America Can Do Better

KEY FACTS ON SECRET SESSIONS OF THE SENATE

· Since 1929, the Senate has held 53 secret sessions, generally for reasons of national security.
· For example, in 1997 the Senate held a secret session to consider the Chemical Weapons Convention (treaty).
· In 1992, the Senate met in secret session to consider “most favored nation” trade status for China.
· In 1988, a session was held to consider the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty and in 1983 a session was held on Nicaragua.
· In 1942, a secret session was held on navy plans to build battleships and aircraft carriers, and in 1943 a secret session was held on reports from the war fronts.
· Six of the most recent secret sessions, however, were held during the impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton.

SENATE RULES ON SECRET SESSIONS

· During a secret session, the doors of the chamber are closed, and the chamber and its galleries are cleared of all individuals except Members and those officers and employees specified in the rules or essential to the session.

· Standing Senate Rules 21, 29, and 31 cover secret sessions for legislative and executive business. Rule 21 calls for the Senate to close its doors once a motion is made and seconded. The motion is not debatable, and its disposition is made behind closed doors.

468 posted on 11/01/2005 12:33:21 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: YaYa123
Let's get even more "lies" out on the table:

"I say this not to frighten you"

In Sacramento, November 15, Clinton painted a bleak future if nations did not cooperate against "organized forces of destruction," telling the audience that only a small amount of "nuclear cake put in a bomb would do ten times as much damage as the Oklahoma City bomb did." Effectively dealing with proliferation and not letting weapons "fall into the wrong hands" is "fundamentally what is stake in the stand off we're having in Iraq today."

He asked Americans to not to view the current crisis as a "replay" of the Gulf War in 1991. Instead, "think about it in terms of the innocent Japanese people that died in the subway when the sarin gas was released [by the religious cult Aum Shinrikyo in 1995]; and how important it is for every responsible government in the world to do everything that can possibly be done not to let big stores of chemical or biological weapons fall into the wrong hands, not to let irresponsible people develop the capacity to put them in warheads on missiles or put them in briefcases that could be exploded in small rooms. And I say this not to frighten you."12

Again in Wichita, November 17, Clinton said that what happens in Iraq "matters to you, to your children and to the future, because this is a challenge we must face not just in Iraq but throughout the world. We must not allow the 21st century to go forward under a cloud of fear that terrorists, organized criminals, drug traffickers will terrorize people with chemical and biological weapons the way the nuclear threat hung over the heads of the whole world through the last half of this century. That is what is at issue."13

On November 19, at a White House signing ceremony for an adoption bill, Clinton warned that Iraq must "let the weapons inspectors resume their work to prevent Iraq from developing an arsenal of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons." To achieve this, "we are prepared to pursue whatever options are necessary" because, Clinton added, "I do not want these children we are trying to put in stable homes to grow up into a world where they are threatened by terrorists with biological and chemical weapons."14

In Washington, D.C., November 21, Clinton applauded the return of UNSCOM inspectors that day (after a three week absence) "to proceed with their work without interference, to find, to destroy, to prevent Iraq from rebuilding nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to carry them." He added: "We must not let our children be exposed to the indiscriminate availability and potential abuse and actual use of the biological and chemical and smaller-scale nuclear weapons which could terrorize the 21st century," said Clinton.15

But with the return of the UNSCOM, Iraqi officials began delaying entry of inspectors to "sensitive sites."

Read the link on this thread:
The Clinton Administration's Public Case Against Saddam Hussein
469 posted on 11/01/2005 12:33:49 PM PST by PogySailor (Good luck to my son & buddies of the 1/11 Marines in Iraq. (TAD to the 3/1))
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To: maggief
So it's a PR stunt, that's it?

It isn't just a PR stunt. It is part of their plan to shape the news for the day. But in the end this doesn't help them with anyone other than their base that wants a knock-down drag-out fight.

470 posted on 11/01/2005 12:33:52 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

exactly a trip recently to dc i had in may of this year the pres can appoint as many as he wants


471 posted on 11/01/2005 12:34:05 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Durbin says Libby misued intell for going into Iraq because of the Plame case

WTH???


Reporters says that the Dems look like the are politicizing this
472 posted on 11/01/2005 12:34:15 PM PST by Mo1
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To: LisaFab

Durbin basically just admitted this is all because they're pissed that only Libby got indicted and that Fitzgerald didn't tie it to the lead-up to Iraq.

These guys are TRAITORS. Pure and simple.


473 posted on 11/01/2005 12:34:29 PM PST by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small.)
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To: RobFromGa

Is he really saying this? That's sedition!

Sedition: Sedition usually involves actually conspiring to disrupt the legal operation of the government and is beyond expression of an opinion or protesting government policy. Sedition is a lesser crime than "treason," which requires actual betrayal of the government, or "espionage."

He's flirting with it!


474 posted on 11/01/2005 12:34:34 PM PST by rip033 (.)
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To: YaYa123
he says a lot of congress believes they were intimidated and manipulated into voting for the war.

If they were intimidated into anything, it was on voting before the 2002 election, not voting for the war. They all wanted to postpone the vote until after they won back their seats for six more years. And, that would have the people doing the intimidating, not the Administration.

-PJ

475 posted on 11/01/2005 12:34:39 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Mo1
Highest ranking official to be indicted in over 100 yrs?

Didn't Clinton(s) get Indicted?
476 posted on 11/01/2005 12:34:39 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: laxcoach
Rush Limbaugh warned y'all this was coming. The only question was when they would try to go after the President. This is just not about Alito; its also the first shot in the 2006 election. The Democrats plan to play rough and dirty til the GOP cries Uncle.

("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")

477 posted on 11/01/2005 12:34:44 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: LisaFab
Armageddon

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478 posted on 11/01/2005 12:34:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: pabianice

Crawl back to your bathhouse.


479 posted on 11/01/2005 12:34:49 PM PST by rockthecasbah (Today is the greatest day I've ever known. Can't wait for tomorrow.)
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To: YaYa123

MSDNC Matthews is back!


480 posted on 11/01/2005 12:34:54 PM PST by Rosemont
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