Judge grills Dover official [Dover trial 11/1/05]

York (PA) Daily Record ^ | 11/1/2005 | LAURI LEBO

[mlc9852]

Maybe the Bible is lying.

[mlc9852]

"It might go something like this: Christianity is a matter of faith, and as such it cannot be proven that God exists, and neither is there any empirical evidence for the afterlife. There are gaps in the record and it is only a theory."

Christians already understand that Christianity is a matter of faith. That is the basis of Christianity but I wouldn't expect you to know that.

[dread78645]

Maybe the Bible is lying.

Only if you read it as literal history.

[Junior]

I don't think Intelligent Design will go away because of reticule.

Because of a gun sight?

[mlc9852]

"I would not be surprised if the lot of them end up in jail for this."

LOL - this isn't Philadelphia, you know!

[mlc9852]

What do you read it as, fairy tales?

[BikerNYC]

What makes nature work? What drives natural selection?

Ah, the age old question: Why is there something rather than nothing? Or, why is there God rather than no God?

I don't think reason can answer that question. As soon as you put it into words, the answer falls apart.

[sr4402]

ID has yet to show that nature cannot and does not produce specified complexity

We do not say that it produces complexity, but that it "is" complex. Evolution is the one that say it produces higher and more complex life forms. Without the assumption that only intelligence can produce SC, ID hasn't a leg to stand on.

All we have to prove is that something couldn't have been been made by shear chance. Believing that you are a product of sheer chance is a pretty good trick you know when you consider the complexity of your body, immune system, brain and DNA.

Using the same logic of evolution and chance, one could be able to say that a Toyota Hybrid was produced by bacterium, not man. Sometimes we need to look at the whole picture and say it is too complex for chance to have done it.

And when we finally admit that chance is too great, we will look at it for life's complexity and make greater scientific advancements than to claim that it is not complex and not intricate.

Sorry, IMHO, evolution will be swept away by sheer amounts of information about the complexity and logic in life (doubling every year) and that it is too intricate to be produced only by sheer chance.

[Thatcherite]

They even justify the phrase about making a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Low, even by your limbo-dancing standards in the wordplay arena.

[longshadow]

Because of a gun sight?

I'm guessing he meant "cuticle"; it makes as much sense.....

[Junior]

How is nature 'driven'?

Traditionally with a stick, but of late it's been automatic.

[Thatcherite]

"It's absurdly irrational to imagine that -2 has a square root."

Just use your imagination.

[phantomworker]

"It's absurdly irrational to imagine that -2 has a square root."

How about imaginary numbers? :)

http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.imag.num.html

[Thatcherite]

If the school board members are lying about a measly $850, what else are they hiding?

Call me cynical, but I've got this awful suspicion that at least some of them are creationists.

[Junior]

Maybe you're misinterpreting it.

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the ping.

[RightWingNilla]

Because of a gun sight?

Nah thats reticule.

Maybe he meant because of a microscope eyepiece when measuring lengths in microns?

[Doctor Stochastic]

Low, even by your limbo-dancing standards in the wordplay arena.

And I don't even pay Rush royalties.

[Thatcherite]

Maybe the Bible is lying.

Feel free to draw that conclusion if that is where you want to go. Some Christians suggest that the more obvious apparent falsehoods in it (when read literally) should be treated as allegories which removes the problem.

[Doctor Stochastic]

All we have to prove is that something couldn't have been been made by shear chance.

That's often given as an explanation of earthquakes.