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To: RasterMaster

We need to know more about Wilson's FRENCH, second wife.


305 posted on 11/01/2005 7:13:07 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Who Jacqueline, who worked for the French embassy and is a friend of Rocco who 'found' the 'forged' Niger document... which Wilson commented was false even though it didn't turn up until eight months later?


359 posted on 11/01/2005 7:32:25 AM PST by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick & Bucket Brigade)
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To: maggief; All

DISGRUNTLED RETIRED CIA CLANDESTINE OPERATIVES?

Rocco just received the documents, he did not forge them.

Read on:
Jacqueline, (Wilson's second wife), was a French diplomat and may have provided the connections for Wilson to see the forged documents that were supplied by the French through the Italians. It has been reported that she was a "cultural counselor" for the French Embassy, which some say is code for she was doing undercover work.

In other words it is possible that Wilson knew that the docs were forged because he was privy to the information that French wanted to discredit the British info on Saddam shopping for yellowcake and that Wilson's objective was the same. The French just happen to manage the yellowcake production in Niger.

IOW, he didn't lie in his first statement...he saw the documents.

And Fedora has contributed this:

French intelligence soon began a campaign to discredit the US case for war against Iraq. In 1999, French intelligence had begun investigating the security of uranium supplies in Niger, where uranium production was controlled by a consortium led by the French mining company COGEMA, a division of the French state-owned nuclear energy firm AREVA. At that time, Italian businessman Rocco Martino provided French intelligence with genuine documents revealing that Iraq was planning to expand trade with Niger. French intelligence took an interest in the documents and asked Martino to provide more information. In 2000 he used a contact in the Niger embassy in Rome to provide French intelligence with documents purporting that Iraq had purchased uranium from Niger. These documents were later exposed as forgeries;

snip...

Since it is now also known that French intelligence was trying to push Martino’s forgeries on US and British intelligence, as simultaneously the Democratic National Committee was planning to discredit President Bush’s Iraq policy by accusing his administration of manufacturing evidence against Hussein’s regime, heightened suspicion is cast on Wilson’s use of the Niger investigation to discredit the Bush administration’s case for war.

Wuli also just posted a timeline thread asking the question about how Joe Wilson saw the documents before they were turned over to the CIA and other questions. It also validates the theory that he saw them in advance:

Then if you connect the dots between the article,Was the Joe Wilson Valerie Plame Affair a CIA Plot? and the article New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name, you come away with all the makings of French/CIA coup attempt. George Tenet was Novak's first source, he was the administration official that was described as "no partisan gunslinger" by Novak.

It also validates the article by Seymour Hersch:

“Who produced the fake Niger papers? There is nothing approaching a consensus on this question within the intelligence community. There has been published speculation about the intelligence services of several different countries. One theory, favored by some journalists in Rome, is that [the Italian intelligence service] Sismi produced the false documents and passed them to Panorama for publication.

“Another explanation was provided by a former senior C.I.A. officer. He had begun talking to me about the Niger papers in March, when I first wrote about the forgery, and said, 'Somebody deliberately let something false get in there.'

He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.”

Source

The stranger that approached Novak? Larry Johnson, Ex-CIA. And if my theory is correct, Vincent Cannistraro, another ex-CIA agent, who is a security consultant to the Vatican in Rome, engineered the break-in at the Niger Embassy there, where the letterhead and seals were stolen for the forgeries.



: Giacomo was NOT BEHIND the fake documents, as you put it.

: All that Giacomo did was buy and distribute the forgeries. He
: did not create them.

: The question then is : WHO CREATED THE FAKES?

: And why?

: The article you refer to does not tell us this.

: So who did create the forgeries?

: Was it a group of neocons around Michael Ledeen based in Rome?

: Or was it somebody else?

: Somebody created them.

: Who was it?


More info here at FR. Rocco confessed he was working with the French and is a good friend (article cites speculation, but since verified on FR), of Jacqueline...
Wilson spent days in France on the way and back to check the story out, sure you fly through France to get to the destination, but not stay days... let's guess what he was doing... besides drinking mint tea.


373 posted on 11/01/2005 7:38:13 AM PST by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick & Bucket Brigade)
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