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To: CyberAnt
My theory (#42)is that this was a collaborative effort by the French and CIA coordinated by Wilson and his second wife, the French "Diplomat". Wilson did not lie when he said he saw the documents.

Also, Rocco only "procured" the documents, he did not forge them. Fitzgerald went to Italy to investigate the Niger Embassy (in Rome) burglary...where the letterhead and seals for the forgeries were stolen. Ex-CIA agent (and coincidentally, an advisor to the Vatican in Rome),Vincent Cannistraro has stated that Alan Wolf and Duane Clarridge were the actual forgers, but his account is the only one available that I can find on the subject. He has also pointed the finger at Michael Ledeen, but Ledeen has publicly made a statement that he had nothing to do with it and demanded an apology from Cannistraro.

In addition, despite what the MSM is reporting, the Italians released a press report yesterday saying they had nothing to do with the forgeries:

Italy denies role in fake documents on Iraq

This was also backed up by Rocco here

Cannistraro's "theory" falls apart when you consider that he:

1) blamed SISME (the Italians), which has proven to be wrong

2) bases his assumptions on a Dec 2001 Ledeen meeting, when Cannistraro himself was in Rome in Nov 2001, which would make him just as suspect.

I also discovered that Cannistraro worked directly with Clarridge during Iran Contra, so he has alot of nerve bringing that up in connection to Ledeen. Another interesting tidbit (#47) that I discovered is that Wolf and Clarridge worked with Aldrich Ames, who outed Plame to the Russians in the 90's. Coincidence? I think not. Cannistraro trying to kill two birds with one stone to cover his own carcass seems to be the more likely answer. Equally suspicious is the Hersch article, where Cannistraro and another unnamed agent state the exact route the documents took and Cannistraro actually admits that he called the CIA about the documents before they were proven to be false. This begs the question...just how did Cannistraro know about the documents before they were vetted? Sounds a whole lot like Wilson's slip-up about seeing the documents.

Also take into consideration:

Wilson (as Ambassador to Gabon) had/has connections to the Gabon Chief of State, Omar Bongo, who was the chief African ally of the French oil company TotalFinaElf, a major beneficiary of the Oil-for-Food bribes. Prior to the Iraq War, they had a contract with Saddam's regime worth an estimated 12.5 to 27.0 billion barrels of oil reserves. Also he had connections via the Middle East Institute and Rock Creek, both of which are Saudi controlled.

Wilson's wife Jacqueline was also apparently a lobbyist for Bongo and it seems Wilson was pretty chummy with Saddam's weapons buyer, having dinner with him on the eve that Kuwait was invaded in 1990. That makes it very clear that there are connections to oil-for-food. No wonder Wilson can afford his lifestyle.

Source: Posts 21 and 22

75 posted on 11/01/2005 5:50:23 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

I do not know enough to dispute your theory, however, key to the attempted "coup" would be cover or as I think direction by elected liberals.


76 posted on 11/01/2005 5:56:16 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: ravingnutter
"Hold on to your hat. The plot is about to thicken."

No it won't. The MSM had their story line on day one, i.e., "Bush White House 'outs' CIA agent to punish courageous whistleblower who exposed false uranium story," and they aren't budging from it. All we've seen for the past few days is Joseph Wilson going from one network to another telling his version of events, with nary a challenge from a reporter or a White House spokesman. The MSM simply aren't interested in any contrary facts, much less in any conspiracy theories which will in any way vindicate the Bush White House. For the MSM spin to work, Joseph Wilson must be protected from all scrutiny and all criticism. He must be a wronged victim, and nothing more.
97 posted on 11/01/2005 9:25:06 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: ravingnutter
Your on the right track. I thought it was damn strange that a guy, Libby, who worked in defending Marc Rich, where it was stated that he had some dealings in some of the Oil For Food scam, was the Vice President's Chief Of Staff. Rich is also vaguely connected with Soros another one working hard at getting Bush. No politics here. Money and Power! That's is what is about. Bush busted up the biggest scams the world has seen. Many powerful people are out to ruin him. Our President is under attack! Keep going everyone. The dots can be connected. Pressure for full disclosure can be made. The truth can come out. Keep going.
99 posted on 11/01/2005 11:46:06 AM PST by rip033 (.)
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