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Priest defends college student, says gay sex 'subhuman'
Renew America ^ | 10/31/05 | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 10/31/2005 6:25:24 PM PST by tuesday afternoon

Father Jeffrey T. Robideau of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Lansing, Mich., is speaking out in defense of Duquesne University student Ryan Miner, who, according to a report from LifeSiteNews.com, has been punished for statements he made, pertaining to homosexuality, "on a website which had no connection to the [Catholic] school."

Father Robideau, author of the book Homosexuality: A Look at Catholic Teaching, told me the following (via e-mail, slightly edited):

"I sent my book to several people in various offices at the school with the following letter:

"Dear Duquesne University faculty, staff and students —

"Responding to recent news reports about your school, the following information may be helpful.

"If Ryan Miner stated that homosexuality, meaning the homosexual act, is 'subhuman,' then he is correct about Catholic Church teaching. How can speaking the truth be contrary to your school's code of conduct policy? It is always the policy of the Catholic Church to speak the truth.

"Homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered. If you or your school says otherwise, then you are in violation of Catholic teaching — a far greater crime and a sin.

"By virtue of being intrinsically disordered, homosexuality is not a human act, but is a depravity and an abomination as Sacred Scripture, the Church and the Catechism all state so clearly.

"To help you fully understand the Catholic teaching on natural law as it pertains to the disordered nature of homosexuality, please read the enclosed book.

"I do hope you will assist your school in recognizing the error of its way."

Matt C. Abbott is a Catholic journalist and commentator. He is a columnist for and/or contributor to RenewAmerica.us, TheConservativeVoice.com, MichNews.com, Catholic.org, Opeds.com, and Speroforum.com. He is also an occasional contributor to "The Wanderer" Catholic newspaper. He can be reached at mattcabbott@hotmail.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: catholics; duquesneu; hero; homosexualagenda
Previous threads on this:

Catholic University Threatening to Expel Student for Calling Homosexual Acts 'Subhuman'

Expulsion For Gay Comments? Duquesne Student Resists Punishment

Duquesne U. student punished for remarks about gays

1 posted on 10/31/2005 6:25:25 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: tuesday afternoon

Go Father!, Go!


2 posted on 10/31/2005 6:43:18 PM PST by PokeyJoe (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those that don't.)
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To: PokeyJoe

I like your tagline.


3 posted on 10/31/2005 6:44:27 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: tuesday afternoon

BTTT


4 posted on 10/31/2005 6:46:39 PM PST by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: tuesday afternoon; EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Yes! Good for this priest. What I want to know is what the University dudes - I mean officials in suits - said in reply. Waiting for the "rest of the story". I have a strong suspicion that the complaints had something to do with Ryan Miner's disapproval of the Gay Straight Alliance Club being hosted by a Catholic university.

Freepmail me AND DirtyHarryY2K if you want on/off this pinglist.


5 posted on 10/31/2005 6:52:01 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: tuesday afternoon

Let's stick to the language of the catechism. Homosexual activity is intrinsically disordered. The term "subhuman" lends itself to misconstrual and misunderstanding. That said, the student has freedom of speech rights that should be respected.


6 posted on 10/31/2005 6:57:42 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: tuesday afternoon; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; ...

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7 posted on 10/31/2005 6:58:44 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: tuesday afternoon

"I like your tagline."

It took me 10 seconds but I got it.


8 posted on 10/31/2005 6:59:15 PM PST by msjhall
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To: little jeremiah

No good deed goes unpunished.


9 posted on 10/31/2005 7:04:42 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: GeneralHavoc; Badray

PING!!!!!!!!!


10 posted on 10/31/2005 7:05:57 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: PokeyJoe

Awesome, Padre!


11 posted on 10/31/2005 7:10:21 PM PST by isrul
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To: little jeremiah

Duquesne is infested with liberals. It's a den of inequity. I hope this will shed some real light on the agenda at Duquesne.


12 posted on 10/31/2005 7:11:11 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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A Catholic institution that would consider a policy of non-discrimination based on sexual orientation, AND a Gay-Straight alliance sounds like it's gone off the rails a bit.


13 posted on 10/31/2005 7:23:37 PM PST by Syberyenta
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To: tuesday afternoon
I find it dangerous that so many in our country think they have a right to stifle and censure the speech & thought of others. Employers, governments and schools, there seems to be no limit. The Spirit of the Taliban lives on in the U.S.

I'd rather die than submit to it.

14 posted on 10/31/2005 7:33:02 PM PST by Lester Moore (islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I agree. It's better to say that homosexual acts are disordered than subhuman. Or to say that they are sinful.

To err is human. To sin is human. Sin can lead to damnation if it is not repented and forgiven, but you are still human while you are doing it.

This priest is quite right to warn the authorities at Duquesne that they are taking the wrong path. But I think he should do it a little more carefully. The word "subhuman" is too easily transferred from the sin to the sinner. The Catholic position should be to hate the sin and love the sinner. Indeed, Duquesne should be teaching homosexuals Catholic truths, because there is nothing charitable about encouraging sinners to keep on sinning.


15 posted on 10/31/2005 7:34:29 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: PokeyJoe

Truth --- gotta love it!


16 posted on 10/31/2005 7:57:40 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan)
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To: tuesday afternoon

You're either with God or you're against Him. Good job priest of siding with the compassionate God.


17 posted on 10/31/2005 8:26:15 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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