Pistol-packers challenge police (NH)

The Union Leader (NH) ^ | October 30, 2005 | ROGER TALBOT

[neverdem]

Porcuping!

[2banana]

She didn’t have her driver’s license. She had a cellular phone, a credit card, her license to carry a concealed pistol and her Glock 23 in a nylon, neon-pink fanny pack.

Later, however, the fashion police cited her for a violation...

[ExcursionGuy84]

I seriously want to discover the person who first siad that "Ignorance is Bliss"

IOW, the Officers DIDN'T KNOW the State Constitution permitted law-abiding citizens to OPENLY-carry weapons--including firearms--on their person

[mvpel]

She has hot pink business cards too, and I got her an assortment of hot pink binder clips a couple months back. It's sort of her trademark. :D

[PAR35]

If she sold Mary Kay instead of wasting her time practicing law, perhaps one day she could drive a pink Cadillac.

[Logical me]

"“In this day and age where people have committed some very violent attacks using firearms, it is understandable that people who do not understand the values of law-abiding firearms owners run scared. We need to work at improving our image with those who don’t understand,” Donovan wrote.
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No, what's needed is police retraining in the law and taught to mind their own business. A police state is not what is needed. More fun would be if every citizens that has a handgun, sets up a day for all citizens to carry. Would drive the police nuts.

[Army Air Corps]

"He came from Texas, which he described as having restrictive gun licensing laws."

A one page background form that takes five minutes to complete and a five minute wait (if that long) for telephone confirmation is restrictive?

With all of my rifles, I completed the form, had my background verified, paid for my firearms and walked out the store with said rifles in 15 minutes.

[neverdem]

DAMN! Or should I have written "duh"?

Did the Union-Leader give you a heads up on running this story?

[theDentist]

...unless the weapon is concealed

So what is NH's legal definition of "concealed"?

[neverdem]

I don't know. I don't live there.

[MeanWestTexan]

the problem appears to be NH's location next to MA.

All the pathetic sheep-people that came across the border have completely ruined NH.

In fact, I will takes bets on the geographic origin of the citizen sleuths who called the cops.

[DHC-2]

I think some "citizens" better start getting used to seeing guns. I carry concealed, mostly because I don't want anyone to know I've got a gun. But sometimes you can "flash" a gun and not be aware of it ... wind blows back a jacket, etc. "Citizens" have got to get educated that there are a bunch of us out here actually "protecting THEM" and not call the cops every time they see a gun. At the supermarket the other day, I was reaching to a lower shelf to get something and "flashed" my 1911. A fellow nearby asked (and very quietly) a minute later ... "Do you have a permit for the gun?" I responded with "Yes sir, I do, and here it is" and I showed it to him. He simply said "thank you ... I should probably carry mine more often!"

[Eagle Eye]

Though it is legal to carry a gun in plain view, “open-carry is not a bright idea,” Rice said. “You are a target. If someone comes in with criminal intent, the first thing he is going to do is neutralize any person with a weapon who can hurt him.”

Yeah, I'm sure that most criminals look for someone carrying a gun or knife or club as their first choice for a vicitm.

[clee1]

I've had this happen to me, in GA; an open carry allowed state.

I am a reserve police office and a holder of a CCW. I went into a Kroger store without my jacket on, with a .380 in the small of my back, open holster. As I was leaving, two city PD officers made a felony stop of me, throwing me against the wall of the building. I suffered contusions and several small scrapes on the face, hands, and arms.

After IDing myself, I was released.

I promptly went to the city PD and swore out a complaint against the officers involved and threatened a civil rights lawsuit against the city, the department, and the two officers. As a result, the entire city PD had to go through retraining regarding the firearms laws of Georgia.

I make it a POINT now to carry openly when I can do so effectively.

[clee1]

See post # 15

[Redbob]

"Commenting on what Pelletier has written on the Internet about his bookstore experience, Rice said, “I think he exercised extraordinarily poor judgment on that particular night (because) he had an open-top holster in the small of his back in an unconcealed fashion. . . ."

So this alleged "firearms instructor" (not lawyer) seems to think that the law should depend on the type holster you're using?
And whether or not he personally approves of it?

[verity]

"All the pathetic sheep-people that came across the border have completely ruined NH."

And the bastards are breeding.

[Darksheare]

Okay.. something here is causing a disconnect and I'm having a hard time with it.. *cough*

" New Hampshire Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms — no license needed, unless the weapon is concealed" beginning of the article says that.

Then we get down to the bookstore bit:

"Commenting on what Pelletier has written on the Internet about his bookstore experience, Rice said, “I think he exercised extraordinarily poor judgment on that particular night (because) he had an open-top holster in the small of his back in an unconcealed fashion. . . . "

New Hampshire constitution says open carry is okay... right?
If it wasn't concealed, what is the problem?

[Redbob]

"With all of my rifles, I completed the form, had my background verified, paid for my firearms and walked out the store with said rifles in 15 minutes."

But you weren't applying for a permit to carry your rifles concealed, were you?

And normally, when someone refers to firearms "licensing," they're talking about carry permits, not purchasing, which of course does not require any form of "licensing."

Texas is in fact among the more restrictive of the "shall-issue" states, and just a few years ago , was not a "shall-issue" state at all.
Prior to the George Bush governorship, it was practically impossible to get a concealed carry permit here.
Now it is merely difficult and expensive.