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Truth on Trial--What you can no longer say about our enemy in the terror war.
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | October 31, 2005 | Phyllis Chesler

Posted on 10/31/2005 5:46:25 AM PST by SJackson

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The New Anti-Terror Laws in Australia
Anyone supporting the insurgency in Iraq or Afghanistan faces possible jail sentence


by Maz Bukhari

October 14, 2005
GlobalResearch.ca


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Anti-Terror Laws or “TERRORIST” Laws

Jail Term for ILL WILL & OBJECTORS

Anyone supporting the insurgency in Iraq, Afghanistan or any country where Australian troops are deployed could face a penalty of 7 years' jail under the new terrorism laws.

Control orders of unlimited duration, secret preventive detention, the monitoring of lawyers, and life imprisonment for funding terrorist organisations are also suggested under the new laws.

The draft legislation, disclosed by Greens yesterday, details the far-reaching security regime proposed by John Howard for "very dangerous and difficult and threatening circumstances" in the wake of the London bombings.

New sedition offences will put big constraints on anti-war protests, familiar since the Vietnam era, and come down hard on those advocating violence against any religious, national or political group.

Those charged with sedition can argue they were acting "in good faith" but it is unclear how the courts will interpret this.

The bill sets out new federal police powers to detain terrorist suspects for up to 24 hours, and up to 48 hours with the approval of a judge or magistrate. Suspects will get access to a lawyer to challenge the detention order in a court or complain of maltreatment

Police do not need to give suspects or their lawyers reasons for the detentions and can monitor lawyers. All conversations lawyers have with their clients must be in English or translated into English for the police. Police are prohibited from questioning the detainees but that ban does not apply to ASIO officers.

Last month the states agreed to allow extensions of up to 14 days for detentions when a terrorist act is believed imminent. The suspect must then be released if no terrorist act occurs.

Detentions are secret but suspects are allowed to contact a family member or employers to say they are safe but, "not able to be contacted for the time being". If they disclose the detention they can be jailed for up to five years.

Under the bill, the Government can apply to a court for control orders on terrorist suspects who have not been charged. These orders include house arrest, preventing them using the telephone or internet and restricting their social contacts and work opportunities. Suspects can also be fitted with tracking devices.

The suspect's lawyer can be shown the control order but not necessarily the evidence or reasons behind it.

The orders can last up to 12 months and can then be renewed any number of times.

Persons under control orders may be given "counselling or education" if they agree.

The bill does limit to three months control orders on those aged between 16 and 18.

Also contained in the legislation are wide-ranging search powers that will compel the production of any documents relating to "any serious offence", regardless of any laws protecting privacy or legal privilege.,

The new laws are to be debated this month, after the Labor premiers agreed to their broad outline at the recent terrorism summit in Canberra.

The proposed laws have been strongly criticised by human rights lawyers and some Muslim leaders, who have described them as draconian.

Sweeping new anti-terror laws include a plan to jail people for up to seven years for promoting feelings of "ill will" or hostility between different groups that would threaten the peace.

As John Howard yesterday defended the measures, the federal Government was angered by ACT Chief Minister Jon Stanhope's decision to publish the 107-page draft bill on his website.

Surprising legal experts with the scope and definition of terrorist acts, the laws would also make it a criminal offence to support a terrorist act, directly or indirectly.

However, elements of the terrorism advocacy provisions are expected to be watered down after a backbench revolt over the draconian laws...

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41 posted on 10/31/2005 7:36:56 PM PST by Fred Nerks (See my bio page for link to pdf download; THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD.)
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"However, elements of the terrorism advocacy provisions are expected to be watered down after a backbench revolt over the draconian laws..."

The Leader of the Opposition has since stated his complete agreement with our needs for greater security. Some small 'adjustments' will be agreed to - but on the whole, we expect this Bill to pass through Parliament.

WHOOOOHOOOO!!!!!

SEDITION!


42 posted on 10/31/2005 7:40:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks (See my bio page for link to pdf download; THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Surprising legal experts with the scope and definition of terrorist acts, the laws would also make it a criminal offense to support a terrorist act, directly or indirectly.

WOW. If that went into effect here....all the liberals would be in jail!

43 posted on 10/31/2005 7:46:56 PM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless The Troops!)
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To: jan in Colorado

LOL! I thought that to myself but wanted to give you the opportunity to make that observation.

Wouldn't that be great?

Remember, from little acorns, big oaks grow.


44 posted on 10/31/2005 7:50:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (See my bio page for link to pdf download; THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Then there's the Aspens... ;o)


45 posted on 10/31/2005 7:52:51 PM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless The Troops!)
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To: jan in Colorado
Thanks for the ping Jan!

Great bedtime reading. ;*/

46 posted on 10/31/2005 8:12:13 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on.)
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To: jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks
New sedition offences will put big constraints on anti-war protests, familiar since the Vietnam era, and come down hard on those advocating violence against any religious, national or political group.

Ohhhh, what I wouldn't give to see this put into effect here!

47 posted on 10/31/2005 8:21:10 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on.)
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To: Justanobody
Mainstream and liberal newspapers write about “insurgents,” not “terrorists,” whom they describe as “martyrs,” not “killers, and as “freedom fighters,” not as “well educated evil men.”

It's not enough that we have the Islamo-fascist trying to destroy this Country....we have to contend with the enemy from within...the liberals and the MSM. Amazing, I can't tell the difference between the islamo-fascists and the pinko's.

48 posted on 10/31/2005 8:21:50 PM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless The Troops!)
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To: jan in Colorado

you mean the aspens that turn red in the fall in clusters because their roots are connected?


49 posted on 10/31/2005 8:26:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (See my bio page for link to pdf download; THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD.)
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To: jan in Colorado

"...the laws would also make it a criminal offense to support a terrorist act, directly or indirectly..."

So, that smarmy, filthy nightshirt-wearing cleric who said on camera that he thought Osama was a great man for organizing the 9/11 attack - that piece of disgusting 'humanity' - he's got two choices; keep his mouth shut or spend a whole lot of time behind bars.

(Mind you, I think many will simply go back to their hell-holes in the ME, or heaven forbid, attempt to migrate to the US!)


50 posted on 10/31/2005 8:34:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (See my bio page for link to pdf download; THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD.)
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you mean the aspens that turn red in the fall in clusters because their roots are connected?

Yep, you got it! You know, those aspens are now "covering" the ground?

(Mind you, I think many will simply go back to their hell-holes in the ME, or heaven forbid, attempt to migrate to the US!)

Are you kidding? Attempt to migrate? They will be welcomed here with open arms. Supported by the Government they will continue to build mosques and train terrorists and...well, you know where I'm going with this.

51 posted on 10/31/2005 8:46:45 PM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless The Troops!)
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To: jan in Colorado
The author states:
Their first weapon is the systematic misuse of language.

Then follows that sentence with...
Mainstream and liberal newspapers write

Call me crazy, but according to the definition of the word, our newspapers and media ARE NOT mainstream.

SYLLABICATION: main·stream
PRONUNCIATION: mnstrm
NOUN: The prevailing current of thought, influence, or activity.
ADJECTIVE: Representing the prevalent attitudes, values, and practices of a society or group: mainstream morality.

Let's begin by taking back the use of the language. We can refer to the media, the press, periodicals etc. without prefacing the word with "mainstream."

we have to contend with the enemy from within...the liberals and the MSM.

You are absolutely correct Jan.

I can't tell the difference between the islamo-fascists and the pinko's.

I know just what you mean. So far we do still have our heads attached to our necks/shoulders, though. Let's give credit where it's due. ;*)

52 posted on 10/31/2005 8:49:31 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on.)
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To: Justanobody
Call me crazy, but according to the definition of the word, our newspapers and media ARE NOT mainstream.

Great point! Would you say the media, both TV and newspaper, for the most part are just tools for the Democratic party?

So far we do still have our heads attached to our necks/shoulders, though.

True...those "peaceful", loving pinko's would NEVER "intentionally" cut your heads off...but they sure set it up to have EIGHT police cars respond to your counter-protest! Lucky for you there weren't any trigger happy policemen responding that night!

53 posted on 10/31/2005 9:04:38 PM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless The Troops!)
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'Let's begin by taking back the use of the language. We can refer to the media, the press, periodicals etc. without prefacing the word with "mainstream."'

Point taken. I am prepared to make a correction and never use the word 'mainstream' again, it's just a habit.

'Twould be nice to coin a replacement that really catches on. Any ideas?


54 posted on 10/31/2005 9:09:45 PM PST by Fred Nerks (See my bio page for link to pdf download; THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD.)
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To: jan in Colorado
Would you say the media, both TV and newspaper, for the most part are just tools for the Democratic party?

Yes...demonRATS, commies, socialists, terrorists - who can tell them apart. The answer is still a resounding YES!

those "peaceful", loving pinko's would NEVER "intentionally" cut your heads off...

LOL!!! That is why I don't get to close to them - one never knows what they may do "unintentionally" ;*)

55 posted on 10/31/2005 9:11:46 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on.)
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Point taken. I am prepared to make a correction and never use the word 'mainstream' again, it's just a habit.

I use MSM because we all know what that means!

Great idea, Fred. We need a replacement...

OK, justanobody, you always have great ideas that I love to plagiarize ;o)

56 posted on 10/31/2005 9:14:59 PM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless The Troops!)
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I am prepared to make a correction and never use the word 'mainstream' again

WooHoo! One down and millions to go!

coin a replacement that really catches on. Any ideas?

Well, Tony Snow uses "Has Been" media, HBM. Many have used "Lamestream" media, LSM. I've heard the terms Old, Dinasour, Treasonous...

Presstitutes, Media Whores etc have been used to refer to the "reporters"

Anything strike your fancy. Other suggestions?

57 posted on 10/31/2005 9:18:00 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on.)
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To: Justanobody

How's this?

Enemy + Media = Enemedia.


58 posted on 10/31/2005 9:19:47 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: jan in Colorado
I don't know Jan...we have the same brain tonight. Now I know how President Bush feels about Karl! LOL!

On the up side, if we share a brain, it is not really plagiarism, is it? ;*)

59 posted on 10/31/2005 9:20:45 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on.)
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To: RandallFlagg
Enemedia

I like it!!!

Think it might be confused with Enema + Media? LOL!

60 posted on 10/31/2005 9:22:26 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on.)
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