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Has any one noticed the double standard between the perjury cases of Lewis "Scooter" Libby and Bill Clinton? As Joseph points out, we're told lying to reporters is a far more serious crime than lying to a judge and jury about one's sexual conduct. You gotta laugh at this. Clinton skated for obstructing justice and Libby faces 30 years in prison for lying to reporters. Doesn't this seem excessive to you? You betcha! And don't forget our old friend Sandy Berger, who walked away with a slap on the wrist for stealing official documents from the National Archives. Now, I'm for every one following the same rules. But Patrick Fitzgerald just lied to the public about equal treatment under the law. Unequal justice is more like what Libby's facing. And there's nothing fair about that when you consider that whereas the lie Clinton told subverted justice and robbed Paula Jones for her right to a fair trial - Libby's alleged lie harmed no one. What makes it all the more ironic is liberals defended Clinton's lie by trivializing the nature of his lie even as they appear set to exaggerate the utter inconsequentiality of the alleged lie said to be uttered by Libby. So as Farah says, "So where for heaven's sake, is the proportionality?" We're going to throw the book at Libby and let other officials, whose crimes were far more serious, escape accountability for them. So much for assuring the rule of law.

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1 posted on 10/30/2005 10:32:32 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

And Hillary still has 900+ FBI files and a lot of sworn people have abandoned their oaths and done absolutly nothing to support justice in this one. Bad, Bad, Bad. what's so special about this traitor that so many good men will do nothing?


2 posted on 10/30/2005 10:39:28 PM PST by Waco
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Libby's not charged with lying to reporters. He's charged with lying to the FBI and a grand jury about conversations he had with reporters and whether he remembered he knew about Plame's CIA ties from official (presumably classified) sources at the time of those conversations. Lying to the FBI and a grand jury is a crime. Lying to the media is usually not.

Patrick Fitzgerald hasn't lied about anything.

And just because Libby's charged with crimes that can put you in jail for up to 30 years doesn't mean Libby will receive a 30 year sentence if convicted.
3 posted on 10/30/2005 10:41:20 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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His presentation to the nation Friday was professional and persuasive.

Farah steps in it. Again.
4 posted on 10/30/2005 10:41:55 PM PST by Terpfen (Libby should hire Phoenix Wright.)
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His point about the Bush Justice dept. letting Berger skate is so true and really irks me. From day one, the Bushies played nice with the democrats in the foolish belief this will be reciprocated. Not giving a crap about the truth, or the rule of law, or what conservatives believe to be ethical, rational, norms. They will pay in one form or another.


5 posted on 10/30/2005 10:43:25 PM PST by spyone
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"Is anyone else struck with the contrast between these two prosecutions?"

By the contrast yes but still it's no surprise. Scooter Libby takes a dive and thats the end of the investigation.
Just like Burglar, small investigation, slap on the wrist and it all goes away. Will we ever find out who the leak was? No. Will we ever find out what documents Burglar destroyed? No. We will never see the bottom of either of these investigations because the fix is in.
Burglar was a sacrifice for Clinton and Libby was a sacrifice for Bush.
9 posted on 10/30/2005 10:52:30 PM PST by PositiveCogins
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"Has any one noticed the double standard between the perjury cases of Lewis "Scooter" Libby and Bill Clinton? As Joseph points out, we're told lying to reporters is a far more serious crime than lying to a judge and jury about one's sexual conduct. You gotta laugh at this. Clinton skated for obstructing justice and Libby faces 30 years in prison for lying to reporters. Doesn't this seem excessive to you? You betcha! And don't forget our old friend Sandy Berger, who walked away with a slap on the wrist for stealing official documents from the National Archives. Now, I'm for every one following the same rules. But Patrick Fitzgerald just lied to the public about equal treatment under the law."

I am a small woman but I do big jobs for myself rather than to hire someone to do them..Last week I was painting the walls in my house while listening to all of this through the television and radio. I thought to myself, "In primitive and corrupt nations, leaders are physically murdered by their opponents. This Libby situation seems to equal political assassination of high level people." Also, in listening to the discussions on this, it would seem that Mr. Wilson was the one who really "outed" his wife. And, if true, does a conspiracy not exist here? To criminalize a public servant through a charge of lying to reporters would truly be a laughing matter in a real civilized nation. I am not so sure that America is civilized anymore. I have scary thoughts such as, "Will this kind of thing get so ridiculous that America will experience some kind of civil war?" When political enemies want to win at any cost, it seems to me that a terrible turning point has been reached. Also, when logic is twisted and distorted to fit what the aggressors want the outcome to be, are we not in mortal danger from some evil greater than Al Queda? The last thing I am thinking is that a "Left Wing" conspiracy does exist, which is backed by lots of money, organization and viciousness and this one is not a myth. I feel sorry for Mr. Libby. How unfortunate to have become educated and to have applied oneself to contributing something to one's country and to one's fellow man and to have been put into the cross hairs of the weapons of hatred this large. We have gone below the bottom of legal decadence when lying to reporters has become a crime. Also, did Sandy Berger not hide those documents in his socks?


25 posted on 10/31/2005 2:42:57 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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Good point on the Libby/Berger "double standard"---but do you actually expect the Democrats and the news media to demonstrate CONSISTENCY in their "moral/news" judgement???


28 posted on 10/31/2005 3:27:31 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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I'm still waiting for the indictments for appropriating the FBI files.


29 posted on 10/31/2005 5:56:40 AM PST by Inwoodian
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