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Joe Wilson In A Bind
American Spectator ^ | 10-31-05 | Clinton W. Taylor

Posted on 10/30/2005 9:25:14 PM PST by smoothsailing

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To: Fred Nerks; Boazo
LOL!

(BOAZO, are you around?)

21 posted on 10/30/2005 10:28:51 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Will be interested to hear wilson and Plame's testimonies under oath at any trial of Libby, especially the cross examination. It's going to make them look very bad and may even set themselves up for perjury.


22 posted on 10/30/2005 10:39:40 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: CyberAnt
Geeeez .. somebody with a brain is teaching political science at Stanford!!

He's a PhD candidate, not a professor. However, Condi Rice is still listed among the Poly Sci faculty, and don't forget Thomas Sowell in the Hoover Institution.

23 posted on 10/30/2005 10:39:44 PM PST by TChad
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To: driftless

Grand juries are never to bring charges against liberals. Only conservatives are targets. Consider the grand jury against Clinton. Who really was made to look bad? It was the consevatives who the media attacked as witch hunters and to top it off Ken Starr was there just to provide protection for the liberals. And it goes on and on until some conservative can be muddied. The best thing that could happen to Libby is for Bush to pardon him. However, this will never happen. If it does, it will be a parting shot from Bush in 2008. Grand jury has might as well be called "Trash Hunter" because they dig to the bottom of the pile and come out smelling like it too.


24 posted on 10/30/2005 10:42:42 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever

Because the liberal minions in the press spin it that way.


25 posted on 10/30/2005 10:47:02 PM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: SierraWasp
he was all over CBS and NBC tonight just lyin his aging A$$ off!!!

And I'm sure they are eating it up. I guarantee there won't be any rebuttal to his lies either. That would take "courage" to put on both sides.

I absolutely refuse to watch his arrogant lying butt.

26 posted on 10/30/2005 10:56:26 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Danae

Since it says that he lied to the select Senate committee on Intelligence and he went in an official compacity, isn't that breaking some laws?


27 posted on 10/30/2005 10:58:02 PM PST by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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To: ONETWOONE

You know how laws protect the perpetrator? Consider Wilson a perpetrator.


28 posted on 10/30/2005 11:02:34 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: kcvl
I absolutely refuse to watch Wilson or 60 Minutes.
29 posted on 10/30/2005 11:10:03 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Read the Senate Report carefully (the section on Niger).

First, it's clear that memories aren't very good about how Wilson was selected and what Plame's role was. The memorandum could indicate that she "offered up his name" or that she was responding to previous questions about him. That the report focused on this question indicates the extreme political sensistivity surrounding it. But the CIA wanted to send someone to answer Cheney's questions.

Second, the report does not identify the foreign source of the information that Iraq was attempting to purchase yellowcake from Niger. More politics. Recent reports, and circumstantial evidence, indicate that it was SISMI distributing the forged documents.

Third, Plame is clearly identified as a covert officer of the Counter-Proliferation section of the DO.

30 posted on 10/30/2005 11:28:29 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: connectthedots
This whole Niger Uranium affairs stinks. Niger is one of the top uranium mining countries of the world. Does the CIA expect us to believe they have no operatives in that country who can tell us where their uranium exports are going? That the British and Israeli intelligence agencies can't tell us what's going on?

They want us to believe there is so little information about uranium exports from Niger, that the CIA sends the HUSBAND of one of their cubicle dwelling analysts to find out whats going on? Someone with no expertise in this area? Someone who does not even sign a confidentiality agreement? In my non-defense line of work you don't get a contract to CLEAN TOILETS without signing a confidentiality/nondisclosure agreement. What the hell is going on at the CIA?

What if this amateur tipped off the wrong people while stumbling around overseas? What if he published an article about this covert work in the NY Times (whoops, he already did that).

Who hired this loose cannon? How much did Wilson get paid? What damage did he do to our wartime anti-terror operations by revealing his mission? These are the important questions that no one in the MSM is asking.
31 posted on 10/30/2005 11:33:38 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: liberallarry
Thanks for the headsup. My system can't access the pdf file. I'll check it again tommorrow.
32 posted on 10/30/2005 11:38:57 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

PING


33 posted on 10/30/2005 11:50:45 PM PST by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: smoothsailing
Just download the section on Niger. Otherwise you'll end up with a huge file.

Also, an article appeared yesterday in the NY Times or the Washington Post - about 7 pages long - outlining all the relevant facts. The authors claimed that the report Cheney's office wanted investigated was the forged one sent by SISMI. I can't find the article. I wanted to re-read it and check the facts and assertions.

34 posted on 10/30/2005 11:51:22 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Got it.Thanks larry! G'night.
35 posted on 10/30/2005 11:58:20 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: BigBobber
Does the CIA expect us to believe they have no operatives in that country who can tell us where their uranium exports are going?

We have an ambassador to Niger who submitted a report. The CIA also sent Gen. Fulford of the Southern command (?) who submitted a report. Who knows what their operatives did? The French companies and the U.N. regularly submit reports. Your problem is not the lack of reports but rather the content; you don't like their conclusions.

They want us to believe there is so little information about uranium exports from Niger, that the CIA sends the HUSBAND of one of their cubicle dwelling analysts to find out whats going on? Someone with no expertise in this area? Someone who does not even sign a confidentiality agreement?

More ignorant bias. Wilson knows a great deal about what's going on and had been to Niger most recently in 1999 at the request of the CIA. That his wife was a CIA analyst and covert operative was a plus, not a negative.

These are the important questions that no one in the MSM is asking.

You ought to be asking yourself about your objectivity.

36 posted on 10/30/2005 11:59:34 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: smoothsailing
Someone needs to throw a net over Larry Johnson. Not only did he get terrorists attacking the United States wrong he can't even get the indictments (with his super secret sources) right...


Oct 18th 2005

A New Tidbit on the Plame Affair
by Larry C. Johnson

Had lunch today with a person who has a direct tie to one of the folks facing indictment in the Plame affair. There are 22 files that Fitzgerald is looking at for potential indictment . These include Stephen Hadley, Karl Rove, Lewis Libby, Dick Cheney, and Mary Matalin (there are others of course). Hadley has told friends he expects to be indicted. No wonder folks are nervous at the White House.



Why anyone would believe this LYING KOOK is beyond me! No wonder CIA couldn't find WMDs if most in CIA are anything like this IDIOT!
37 posted on 10/31/2005 12:41:44 AM PST by kcvl
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To: smoothsailing

bttt


38 posted on 10/31/2005 12:47:40 AM PST by nopardons (Today is my FR 7 year anniversary.)
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To: Fred Nerks

39 posted on 10/31/2005 12:51:32 AM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: liberallarry

No, you and everyone who reads your posts, should question YOUR objectivity! You aren't a Conservative; you aren't even a GOPer. You and MurrayMom are LIBERAL DEMS and why you are allowed to post to FR, with your biased views,is beyond me.


40 posted on 10/31/2005 12:58:20 AM PST by nopardons (Today is my FR 7 year anniversary.)
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