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1 posted on 10/29/2005 10:34:11 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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"Beef" is not required when you're Martha Stewarting a political enemy. And to the DemocRATS, "that's a good thing."


2 posted on 10/29/2005 10:38:04 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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The only beef is the one some rogue CIA folks have with this WH.


3 posted on 10/29/2005 10:41:01 AM PDT by frankjr
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In the days ahead the Democrat Party blowhards will repeatedly talk about the Bush Administration's "culture of corruption."

The way to handle these rats is for the repubs from the president down to start governing as conservatives. Nominate a JRB type to the SCOTUS, pass laws that allow drilling in ANWR, pass laws that make building refineries easier, close the borders to illegals, start fining employers that hire illegals, cut the pork from the budget, etc. The rats will howl and it will be music to our ears.

4 posted on 10/29/2005 10:45:29 AM PDT by Mogollon
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Don't be hasty. Fitz isn't finished. He may yet generate an indictment against Karl Rove. If he hasn,t done so by the middle of next week, I'll begin to feel better, although key questions will remain unanswered.


9 posted on 10/29/2005 11:01:12 AM PDT by Elsiejay (Forever wondering)
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If one thinks about the way Prosecutor Fitzgerald managed his rather immpressive caseload and won a very substantial number of convictions, think about this (1) Fitzgerald has thrown this whole case into the public domain where it deserves a through hearing (2) The case against Libby is mostly built around "he said / she said" and on its face is speculative, something that a good defense counsel will tear into and raise very substantial doubts in the minds of jurors (3) a lot of characters who have lied about the facts in this case, and did not figure in Fitzgeralds commentary or were peripheral to it will have to raise their hands in court and swear an oath to tell the truth and face the consequences of their earlier deception.

The whole nation will be exposed to this spectacular parade of the good the bad and the ugly and it will not be pretty. IMHO Libby will get off and there will be plenty of exposure focussed on activities in the State Department, CIA, media and Democratic party. A secret investigation within a Grand Jury could never get the response that a daily blow by blow account in an open court room will produce. The media will be forced to report the facts as they are spoken and televised, substantially depriving them of the ability to twist the facts to suit their political agendas.


10 posted on 10/29/2005 11:03:04 AM PDT by sydneysider
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This case was the same as if someone was on trial for murder and was convicted of stealing. They didn't find what they wanted so they dropped down about five rungs just to make it look like a two year investigation wasn't a waste of time. Didn't fool me though. It was a waste of time and money.


11 posted on 10/29/2005 11:07:03 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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I've been watching Fitzgerald here in IL for years now. He may be nuts but he's not a partisian hack. He's just a hack IMHO.

He has made things bad for former Gov Ryan (R) but he's tormenting the heck out of Mayor Daley too.



13 posted on 10/29/2005 11:10:42 AM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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Of interest is why Libby volunteered for a perjury indictment instead of saying "I don't remember".


15 posted on 10/29/2005 11:17:00 AM PDT by ex-snook (Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
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"Of course, no one asked about the fact that Joe Wilson mentioned his CIA wife in his bio posted on a seminar website well before the Robert Novak article outed Plame."

Seems like proof positive that Libby is innocent. With Joe out there outing his wife it seems impossible that it was not widely known in the press that his wife was CIA. Thus it is very very likely that Russett is the one that lied to the Grand Jury not Libby. This makes all the other indictments moot as they were all bassed on an asmption that Fitz made that Libby lied about his conversation with Russett.


18 posted on 10/29/2005 11:44:00 AM PDT by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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did Valerie Plame testify before the grand jury? Did Joe Wilson?

My guess is that if they did testify, there were a few more FALSE STATEMENTS uttered to that Grand Jury. This is most likely a case of selective prosecution.

And I think Fitzpatrick should lay off the "National Security" concerns. If he really cared, he'd be investigating the infested CIA right now.

19 posted on 10/29/2005 11:49:25 AM PDT by TravisBickle (The War on Terror: Win It There or Fight It Here)
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Fitzgerald, playing to the cheap media seats, went into a tirade about the seriousness of divulging classified information and its risks to national security. That is true. However, Mr. Fitzgerald's grand jury did not indict Libby for anything having to do with divulging classified information

Boy you would never know that by reading some of the newspaper articles and listening to the MSM. The reporting sounds like the next step in this process is to switch to the "Lied going to War" routine we hear everyday. If Bush lied to get us to war, then I want every one of the Senators that voted for Bush to enforce Resolution 1441, every stinkin one, to be impeached along with Bush. Dems and Repubs alike (especially the Demonrats who want to take down BUSH).

28 posted on 10/29/2005 12:32:46 PM PDT by p23185
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bump


65 posted on 10/29/2005 11:12:12 PM PDT by tophat9000 ("Space for rent")
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