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To: Cboldt
I am not a lawyer, this post will prove it, LOL! The investigation has been framed by the media and dems as a way to determine if someone had broken the law by revealing the identity of a covert agent. I am assuming the indictment is independent of that determination.

IOW, Libby was indicted for crimes cited in the indictment and these crimes are not related to the conclusion of the investigation.

Since no report will be released, we will never know what the conclusion is except to say that if no one is charged with revealing the identity of a covert CIA agent we can only assume one of 4 things:

1. Valerie Plame was not covert
2. She was covert but there is not enough evidence to prove the release of her name violated the law
3. She was covert but there is not enough evidense to charge any one person with doing so.
4. No law was broken but investigation was bogus based on the flimsiet set of "facts."

From the presser:

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FITZGERALD: ...So let me tell you a little bit about how an investigation works.

Investigators do not set out to investigate the statute, they set out to gather the facts.

It's critical that when an investigation is conducted by prosecutors, agents and a grand jury they learn who, what, when, where and why. And then they decide, based upon accurate facts, whether a crime has been committed, who has committed the crime, whether you can prove the crime and whether the crime should be charged...

....That's the way this investigation was conducted. It was known that a CIA officer's identity was blown, it was known that there was a leak. We needed to figure out how that happened, who did it, why, whether a crime was committed, whether we could prove it, whether we should prove it.

And given that national security was at stake, it was especially important that we find out accurate facts...

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Has the CIA request ever been made public? All I see on the SP website is the letter from Comey which states :

"...I hereby delegate to you all the authority of the Attorney General with respect to the Department's investigation into the alleged unauthorized disclosure of a CIA employee's identity, and I direct you to exercise that authority as Special Counsel independent of the supervision or control of any officer of the Department.
/s/ James B. Comey James B. Comey Acting Attorney General.."

Wouldn't the very first order of business be the determination whether or not the "alleged unauthorized disclosure" was fact or fiction?

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Here is the quote I have been looking for regarding the CIA`request:

Wilsongate: Did CIA run a covert op against an elected president?

By Clifff Kincaid
ACCURACY IN MEDIA
Saturday, October 22, 2005

...DiGenova raises serious questions about the CIA role not only in the Wilson mission but in the referral to the Justice Department that culminated in the appointment of a special prosecutor. At this point in the media feeding frenzy over the story, the issue of how the investigation started has almost been completely lost. The answer is that it came from the CIA.

Acting independently and with great secrecy, the CIA contacted the Justice Department with “concern” about articles in the press that included the “disclosure” of “the identity of an employee operating under cover.”

The CIA informed the Justice Department that the disclosure was “a possible violation of criminal law.” This started the chain of events that is the subject of speculative news articles almost every day. The CIA’s version of its contacts with the Justice Department was contained in a 4-paragraph letter to Rep. John Conyers, ranking Democratic Member of the House Judiciary Committee. Conyers and other liberal Democrats had been clamoring for the probe.

DiGenova doubts that the CIA had a case to begin with. He says he would like to see what sworn information was provided to the Justice Department about the status of Wilson’s CIA wife, Valerie Plame, and what “active measures” the CIA was taking to protect her identity. The implication is that her status was not classified or protected and that the agency simply used the stories about her identity to create the scandal that seems to occupy so much attention these days.

(A link to the response to Conyers from the CIA is here:
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/cialeakinforesp13004.pdf)

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So back to my original comments. If Fitzgerald was investigating alleged unauthorized disclosure of a CIA employee's identity why didn't he start there?

Admittedly, I am no legal eagle, but I liken it to being accused of watering on an odd numbered day (we are an even day house) and instead of limiting the investigation to that, all members of the household are fair game to determine if any of us have ever broken any law.

[IMPORTANT NOTE: By CIA I mean the suspected rogue element that may exsist. I am not trashing the entire agency. I use CIA for typing ease. I want to be 100% clear on that point]

I am also concerned about the CIA's request. It is possible the request could contain information which we will never know. What better place than under the cover of "National Security" would such a manipulation occur? Anyone with an agenda and support of MSM could use the classified information angle as a tool to start an investigation hoping to catch the Bush Administration on a tiny little hook. (ie Use the referral as a fishing expedition.)

Fitz was reluctant to use to term "covert". The Comey letter refers to disclosure of a CIA employee's identity . An employee, not a covert agent.

What if the request was worded in such a way to use the Espionage Act? What if the request was tailored for the Espionage Act. They aren't stupid. This is what they do.

I don't even know if this post makes sense, but I thought I would throw it out there FWIW.

59 posted on 10/29/2005 2:15:21 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Some background info on the laws involved and how Libby may be able to beat the rap.

The Espionage Act was enacted into law on 15 June 1917. It was extended by the Sedition Act, one of Free Republic's favorites, in 1918 and then in 1921 major portions of it were repealed. In 1947 the remaining sections were incorporated into the National Security Act of 1947. The parts remaining that we are interested in vis a vis Libby are 18USC793 and 18USC794.

Please note that the first sentences of each law begin like this: "(a) Whoever, with intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation.......".

Now it is my blue collar opinion that Fitzgerald is blowing smoke about the Espionage Act because he has two chances of convincing a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that Libby's intent was "to be used to the injury of the United States...", none and none.

Though the Espionage Act does deal with classified 'stuff' I'll tell you why Fitzgerald is blowing smoke again. In the turbulent 60's and 70's , Philip Agee, an ex CIA guy, was writing books exposing covert and classified agents to his hearts content. Lewis Wolfe, co editor of some rag called "Covert Action Information Bulletin" was doing the same thing in his rag. Both of them made the Mata Plame affair look like tea and crumpets with Aunt Irene as far as "outing" classified bureaucrats and covert operators. Neither ever spent a day in jail for it which tells me that the Espionage act did not obtain, as my pal Torie likes to say.

So you ask what did the Congress do to halt these dingdongs. They passed the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 amending the National Security Act of 1947.

The senate report on this law states that the Act was in response to "the systemic effort by a small group of Americans, including some former intelligence agency employees to disclose the names of covert intelligence agents." In other words prior to 1982, no such law prevented them from doing so which is why Agee is blowing smoke about Libby breaking the law as regards the Espionage Act.

Now the relevant section of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 that we are interested in is 50USC421

Since enactment of this law I can find only one person ever prosecuted under it and that was back in 1985, one Sharon Scranage a CIA officer in Ghana who pleaded guilty in 1985 to revealing other agents' names to her Ghanian boyfriend. She was sentenced to five years in prison, and she served eight months behind bars. I think it is rather obvious to all concerned that this law never applied since Valerie Plame had been in the US for over 5 years before this little tete a tete took place.

So, what does all this mean?

I dunno!

Just kiddin'.

Well, I think Libby's lawyer should be able to find a defense based on the fact that Libby knew all of this before he ever testified at the Grand Jury so why would his client lie about something he knew did not violate the law. Of course that depends on Libby having knowledge that Plame had been in the states for longer than 5 years. If he can prove he knew that, then he can certainly show reasonable doubt that he never intended to lie and claim neuronal dysfunction just sort of crept up on him over the years.

One caveat to this. If Libby lied intentionally then he should go to jail.

60 posted on 10/29/2005 3:55:17 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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