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To: TopQuark

You have defined the market as the focus of conservatism. It is not. Faith, family, and community are the focus of conservatism, not a Social Darwinist "devil take the hindmost" indifference to any consideration but shareholder equity.


84 posted on 10/29/2005 11:44:58 AM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Sam the Sham
Sam, you appear to have a really bad habit:

You have defined the market as the focus of conservatism.

I have not. If something is unclear, ask for a clarification. You continue to put words in my mouth, which is becoming offensive.

It is not. Faith, family, and community are the focus of conservatism,

More declarations. Apparently, that is what attracts you personally to the conservative movement. You have a disagreement with "liberals" in what they do to faith, family, and community. And that, actually, was one of the points I made: when it comes to economics, most self-identified conservatives aspire to socialist ideals. And that is why we have a huge government even with "conservatives" in power, and that is why it is ever increasing.

If you read a little, you'll discover that most thinkers to whom modern conservative point as founding fathers stated in various ways that free markets underly democracy; no freedom is possible unless there is economic freedom. Your statemeny is therefore factually incorrect (it would be correct if it were preceded with "what conservatism to me is...").

not a Social Darwinist "devil take the hindmost" indifference to any consideration but shareholder equity.

I guess you find these words, "shareholders' equity." very intellectual. I have no idea what they do in your post or this discussion.

Let's talk more when you are willing to have a discussion. So far, it was not. As I said earlier, I am not going to reply to words put in my mouth.

Have a good day.

88 posted on 10/29/2005 12:01:03 PM PDT by TopQuark
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