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To: vikingd00d
I'd have to agree with the SCOFLA on this one.. 'Ex post facto' and all that...

A designation isn't a punishment, so I don't think ex post facto should apply. If the IRS puts a new form on its 1040's required if you have ever been charged with tax evasion, is that ex post facto? The actions were illegal when committed, the punishment does not change. Would it be illegal for the state to begin tracking the addresses of people with more than two DUIs?

11 posted on 10/29/2005 5:37:53 AM PDT by SampleMan
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To: SampleMan
A designation isn't a punishment, so I don't think ex post facto should apply.

A designation is part of a statute, which is a law. Ex Post Facto covers changes in a law as well as new legislation. When you change a law, it effectively becomes a new law.

16 posted on 10/29/2005 6:20:45 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: SampleMan
>> A designation isn't a punishment, so I don't think ex post facto should apply.

Registered offenders have additional restrictions on their actions to which this guy had not been sentenced, so the punishment DOES actually change.

>> If the IRS puts a new form on its 1040's required if you have ever been charged with tax evasion, is that ex post facto? Would it be illegal for the state to begin tracking the addresses of people with more than two DUIs?

Those changes could not apply to those previously convicted. You may not like the outcome on this particular case, but surely you're not arguing that retroactive laws are good, are you?

19 posted on 10/29/2005 6:38:07 AM PDT by vikingd00d
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