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To: durasell; gondramB
***A) Public education is falling apart and under attack. ***

Under attack by who?



***C) There is the general idea in the air that science is in conflict with religion. ***

Religions is not killing American education - decades of irreligion and worship of the "State" is what is doing it. Modern secular education is robbing children of the character and self-relicance necessary to be intelligent and productive citizens!
163 posted on 10/29/2005 11:06:18 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

"Religions is not killing American education - decades of irreligion and worship of the "State" is what is doing it. Modern secular education is robbing children of the character and self-relicance necessary to be intelligent and productive citizens!"

that is just not an argument the scientific community needs to be involved in as scientists exept for the part about education and self reliance. Science education needs to stredd think for one's self. It certainly did at the schools I attended and the labs I worked in.


166 posted on 10/29/2005 11:18:47 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: PetroniusMaximus

***A) Public education is falling apart and under attack. ***

Under attack by who?


Under attack by tax payers who don't want to pay for it. Under attack by folks who want it dismantled for economic or ideological reasons.




***C) There is the general idea in the air that science is in conflict with religion. ***

Religions is not killing American education - decades of irreligion and worship of the "State" is what is doing it. Modern secular education is robbing children of the character and self-relicance necessary to be intelligent and productive citizens!


I didn't say religion is "killing American education." I said there is an "idea in the air" that science is in conflict with religion. This is perception. But perceptions count when distribution of grant dollars are in play or acceptances to top flight universities are being considered.

You say that religion is under attack by secular education. I can't argue the point, but be aware that many of the corporations, foundations etc. that fund science don't care. They will just take their dollars and offer them to someone else. They don't even care about character, self-reliance, etc. etc. important as those things may be, they care about the next big discovery. Call it the Turing Syndrome. Not for nothing, Apple Computer's logo has a bite out of the apple.


167 posted on 10/29/2005 11:23:15 AM PDT by durasell
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