Posted on 10/28/2005 3:29:36 PM PDT by Crackingham
They aren't in competition since they are unrelated to one another.
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But it's ok to mock God. The very One who gave you your freedoms and your rights."
God gave us free will and the choice to believe, not believe or mock. Our constitution confirms that.
***Science doesn't work on proof it works on evdience.***
I don't like word games, but the term "proof" is used 17,800 times on the website science.com
So they must kind of like the term.
"So all of science rests on whether intelligent design is taught or not? "
No, it reats on whether science is based on evidence or on faith. It is based on whether we keep searching for answers or we say "that's too hard, I give up."
"Lysenko."
Bullseye. (For others: Lysenko was a crackpot who also happened to be a favorite of Stalin. For that reason alone, Lysenko's nutty theory of acquired characteristics became dogma in the Soviet scientific establishment. Some claim that Russian bio-science has not recovered to this day.)
Oh, no. Post-modernism views rationality as a Western cultural construct, a form of domination and control. Post-structuralism maintains that there is no text, only interpretation, and that "authorship" is a myth. As the trendy post-modernists are wont to say, "There is no text, only interpetation" and "There are no facts, only interpretations."
If radical anti-rationalist philosphy doesn't "threaten science," I'm not quite sure what possibly could.
The US has always been hostile to science. Virtually all women hate science and revel in not knowing anything about it.
***They aren't in competition since they are unrelated to one another.***
Science and God are unrelated?
???
***God gave us free will and the choice to believe, not believe or mock***
So you believe in God???
This was dramatically illustrated in the case of Terri Schiavo earlier this year, in which Republicans in Congress passed a law to keep a woman in a persistent vegetative state alive by feeding her against her husband's wishes that she starve to death.
"So you believe in God???"
Yes. I am a Christian.
I've been saying for years that if you don't teach students basic math, and you don't teach them to read, then you should not be wasting your political capital by insisting that every student must learn about evolution. Get your priorities straight. If not, then don't be surprised when the quality of learning goes down.
"The laws of nature don't care what people believe."
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"Nor do the laws of nature care if scientists have it wrong either. Especially if there was someone or something that penned those laws. What of it?"
The 'no text but only interpreation' is just a restating of the 'if a tree falls in the forest with no one there' argument. Post structuralism like theories have been around since classical times. They don't threaten hard science. They stay mostly in the Literary and Philosphy departments. And they certainly don't bully school boards to have say Gravity taught as a 'social construct'. That would be the comparison.
God is outside the domain of Science.
"I've been saying for years that if you don't teach students basic math, and you don't teach them to read, then you should not be wasting your political capital by insisting that every student must learn about evolution. Get your priorities straight. If not, then don't be surprised when the quality of learning goes down."
Agreed. Biology doesn't need to be mandatory in high school but if kids choose to take it they need to be taught that which is scientifically supportable.
"God is outside the domain of Science."
He certainly is right now because there is no scientific evidence of God that we have found. If clear evidence of a creator were found then science would have to rethink that.
Scientific theory needs some facts or data for support and in order be reputable the facts and data need to be challenged and hold up continuously.
Therefore when evolution is accepted unchallengeable as dogma , then scientific method can be only described as existing in a hostel environment, as with the many examples of dogma trumping the scientific method over the centuries.
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