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Well - He Had to Indict Somebody for Something!
10/28/05 | J.B. Williams

Posted on 10/28/2005 2:34:41 PM PDT by MikeA

22 months and millions of US tax-payer dollars later, the Valerie Plame CIA leak case ends with not the roar of a lion and the speculated ten indictments against Bush administration officials for their “culture of corruption”, not with charges against DNC public enemy #1 Karl Rove, or the pipe-dream resignation of Dick Cheney, but rather with the squeak of a mouse and the sought indictment of one… Chief of staff for VP Dick Cheney, “Scooter” Libby…

It appears that he is not being indicted for “outing” a CIA NOC, the original basis for the entire investigation. But rather for telling the Grand Jury that he originally learned Valerie Plame’s name from a reporter, when it is alleged that he instead learned it first from the VP himself.

Two White House officials with security clearance discussing secure information is not exactly a unique event, let alone a crime. It also goes without saying that nobody could have leaked anything had someone in the CIA itself not leaked it first. Surely it wasn’t Tenet himself. After all, he was a Clinton appointee, not a member of the “culture of corruption”.

It would have helped if the CIA employee at the center of the investigation had actually been under-cover at the time of the alleged outing. It also would have helped if the investigation had been able to find any credible witnesses instead of working a case entirely dependent upon the word of one Joe Wilson, a man with literally no credibility in the real world at all.

But stay tuned… Less than thirty days into the investigation, Prosecutor Fitzgerald requested authority to expand the investigation beyond its initial intent. 22 months later, with one half-baked indictment for an alleged secondary infraction of a crime there is no evidence ever existed, the Prosecutor is once again requesting authority to expand the investigation even further.

In case you haven’t been paying attention, all roads lead to the relentless pursuit of Bush administration officials who liberals have repeatedly accused of “lying” us into a war in Iraq. Hence, the second request in the 22 month old investigation to expand the depth and breadth of the investigation once more.

Yet after 22 months, it is pretty clear that if any reasonable evidence existed to support the original purpose of the investigation, it surely would have been uncovered by now. I mean, they took every opportunity up until the eleventh hour here, and this is what they have?

Frankly, any Prosecution team that couldn’t uncover the evidence of a real crime by now either ain’t much of a prosecution team, or they ain’t working with much of a crime… Take your pick!

Bottom line, only those who think Martha Stewart is a hardened criminal who belongs behind bars, (like Fitzgerald and relentless liberal Bush-basher’s), will see this as anything less than a complete failure to make a real case.

Well, let’s face it. After 22 months and millions of dollars, somebody was going to be charged with something.

Instead of appearing to be the massive “culture of corruption” democrat fund-raisers made it out to be, (with the help of their friends in the press of course, thank you Chris Mathews), this one has the appearance of an eleventh hour indictment aimed at justifying a 22 month old investigation going nowhere…

The liberal so-called mainstream press has spent all day - every day for the last two weeks building this case into a crescendo based on the “culture of corruption” drummed into the hearts and minds of liberal Bush-hating democrat minions, for what? One indictment for a secondary allegation in a crime that apparently never happened? You must be kidding me…

Of course when Clinton “crony” and Kerry National Security Advisor Sandy Burger was “convicted” of stealing TOP SECRET documents stuffed in his shorts from the national archives, the so-called main-stream press didn’t give it a seconds notice even on the back page.

But just watch how fast they convict, draw and quarter and tar and feather Scooter Libby over the coming days and weeks…

Liberals better start pricing flights to Canada again… Culture of corruption? Right!

We tried to tell you liberal idiots!!!!


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Interesting that liberals think perjury and obstruction of justice is a crime again after those laws took the 90s off in deference to Bill and Hillary Clinton, the perjurers-in-chief.

I know, we'll be called hypocrites by the Dems. for thinking this an 11th air reach by Fitgerald to find something to justify his 2 years on the federal payroll. But the difference is, perjury was never the main focus of this investigation but in the Lewinsky matter it was. It wasn't just some last minute charge cooked up by Starr based on a faulty memory to find something to make an impeachment referral on. It was at the heart of Clinton's crimes as president.

That being said if it can be proven what Libby said was both MATERIAL and an INTENTIONAL ACT TO DECEIVE, then he should pay the price. But that's going to be a mighty hard case for Fitzgerald to prove. Memories about obscure figures and what was said in minor conversations 2 years ago fade easily.

Anyway, prosecutors typically do this when they can't indict on the main or original charge. I saw it happen to a friend of mine totally innocent of any wrongdoing. They accused him of "playing with the truth" to cook up a perjury charge when he was cleared of over 60 other charges and they couldn't get him on anything else. This is typical prosecutorial abuse and typical of the prosecutor's mindset of "They're all guilty. Now we just have to find them guilty of something.

In the end, Libby walks. But as Mr. Donovan said in the 80s after he was cleared of his politically-motivated indictment by the out of control Lawrence Walsh "Where do I go to get my reputation back?"

1 posted on 10/28/2005 2:34:42 PM PDT by MikeA
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To: MikeA
22 months and millions of US tax-payer dollars later, the Valerie Plame CIA leak case ends with not the roar of a lion and the speculated ten indictments against Bush administration officials for their “culture of corruption”

Should have indicted the ham sandwich, it would have made as much sense since obviously there was no underlying crime!

2 posted on 10/28/2005 2:37:01 PM PDT by p23185
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To: MikeA
Burglar not only stole classified docs, but he destroyed some also. We will NEVER know what he destroyed or changed.

One thing we DO know is that Fitzgerald is a DEMOCRAT!! I don't like Libby, but Fitz was out of control at the presser!

3 posted on 10/28/2005 2:40:49 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: MikeA
But the difference is, perjury was never the main focus of this investigation but in the Lewinsky matter it was. It wasn't just some last minute charge cooked up by Starr based on a faulty memory to find something to make an impeachment referral on. It was at the heart of Clinton's crimes as president.

Ummm .... I think you're forgetting about Whitewater. Let's not get too conveniently revisionist.

4 posted on 10/28/2005 2:42:47 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: Ann Archy

How do we know Fitz is a Dem? Is that a fact, or an assumption? I thought I heard him say today he is not registered in either party.

One of the few sentences he said that I actually understood.


5 posted on 10/28/2005 2:44:16 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: MikeA

And the hard core democrats and zombies that follow them are recharged and this indictment will strengthen the democrat base. That's why they do it and they do it to punish conservatives who oppose their liberal agenda and to send a message to other who might try to do the same.
This is not over until they reach the VP and Rove. Bookmark this.


6 posted on 10/28/2005 2:46:04 PM PDT by street_lawyer
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To: p23185
Should have indicted the ham sandwich, it would have made as much sense since obviously there was no underlying crime!

My exact thought, you just got there quicker.

7 posted on 10/28/2005 2:46:51 PM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: Ann Archy

"I don't like Libby"
Why?


8 posted on 10/28/2005 2:47:14 PM PDT by street_lawyer
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To: SE Mom

Since leaking classfied gummint information is a crime, every gummint employee that tells anything in that category to the press, should be prosecuted. One way to clean out the state department {as well as the entire government}.


9 posted on 10/28/2005 2:51:33 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: street_lawyer
GOP.com

"It's disappointing that once again, so many Democrat leaders are taking their political cues from the far-left, Moveon wing of the party. The bottom line is Karl Rove was discouraging a reporter from writing a false story based on a false premise and the Democrats are engaging in blatant partisan political attacks."

-RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman

Cooper’s Own Email Claims Rove Warned Of Potential Inaccuracies In Wilson Information:

“[Time Reporter Matt] Cooper Wrote That Rove Offered Him A ‘Big Warning’ Not To ‘Get Too Far Out On Wilson.’ Rove Told Cooper That Wilson’s Trip Had Not Been Authorized By ‘DCIA’ - CIA Director George Tenet - Or Vice President Dick Cheney.” (Michael Isikoff, "Matt Cooper’s Source," Newsweek, 7/18/05)

Wilson Falsely Claimed That It Was Vice President Cheney Who Sent Him To Niger, But The Vice President Has Said He Never Met Him And Didn’t Know Who Sent Him:

Wilson Says He Traveled To Niger At CIA Request To Help Provide Response To Vice President’s Office. “In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney’s office had questions about a particular intelligence report. … The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president’s office.” (Joseph C. Wilson, Op-Ed, “What I Didn’t Find In Africa,” The New York Times, 7/6/03)

Joe Wilson: “What They Did, What The Office Of The Vice President Did, And, In Fact, I Believe Now From Mr. Libby’s Statement, It Was Probably The Vice President Himself ...” (CNN’s “Late Edition,” 8/3/03)

Vice President Cheney: “I Don’t Know Joe Wilson. I’ve Never Met Joe Wilson. … And Joe Wilson - I Don’t [Know] Who Sent Joe Wilson. He Never Submitted A Report That I Ever Saw When He Came Back.” (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 9/14/03)

CIA Director George Tenet: “In An Effort To Inquire About Certain Reports Involving Niger, CIA’s Counter-Proliferation Experts, On Their Own Initiative, Asked An Individual With Ties To The Region To Make A Visit To See What He Could Learn.” (Central Intelligence Agency, “Statement By George J. Tenet, Director Of Central Intelligence,” Press Release, 7/11/03)

Tenet: “Because This Report, In Our View, Did Not Resolve Whether Iraq Was Or Was Not Seeking Uranium From Abroad, It Was Given A Normal And Wide Distribution, But We Did Not Brief It To The President, Vice-President Or Other Senior Administration Officials.” (Central Intelligence Agency, “Statement By George J. Tenet, Director Of Central Intelligence,” Press Release, 7/11/03)

Wilson Denied His Wife Suggested He Travel To Niger, But Documentation Showed She Proposed His Name:

Wilson Claims His Wife Did Not Suggest He Travel To Niger To Investigate Reports Of Uranium Deal; Instead, Wilson Claims It Came Out Of Meeting With CIA To Discuss Report. CNN’S WOLF BLITZER: “Among other things, you had always said, always maintained, still maintain your wife, Valerie Plame, a CIA officer, had nothing to do with the decision to send to you Niger to inspect reports that uranium might be sold from Niger to Iraq. … Did Valerie Plame, your wife, come up with the idea to send you to Niger?” JOE WILSON: “No. My wife served as a conduit, as I put in my book. When her supervisors asked her to contact me for the purposes of coming into the CIA to discuss all the issues surrounding this allegation of Niger selling uranium to Iraq.” (CNN’s “Lade Edition,” 7/18/04)

But Senate Select Committee On Intelligence Received Not Only Testimony But Actual Documentation Indicating Wilson’s Wife Proposed Him For Trip. “Some [CIA Counterproliferation Division, or CPD,] officials could not recall how the office decided to contact the former ambassador, however, interviews and documents provided to the Committee indicate that his wife, a CPD employee, suggested his name for the trip. The CPD reports officer told Committee staff that the former ambassador’s wife ‘offered up his name’ and a memorandum to the Deputy Chief of the CPD on February 12, 2002, from the former ambassador’s wife says, ‘my husband has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.’” (Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,” U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

Wilson’s Report On Niger Had “Thin” Evidence And Did Not Change Conclusions Of Analysts And Other Reports:

Officials Said Evidence Was “Thin” And His “Homework Was Shoddy.” “In the days after Wilson’s essay appeared, government officials began to steer reporters away from Wilson’s conclusions, raising questions about his veracity and the agency’s reasons for sending him in the first place. They told reporters that Wilson’s evidence was thin, said his homework was shoddy and suggested that he had been sent to Niger by the CIA only because his wife had nominated him for the job.” (Michael Duffy, “Leaking With A Vengeance,” Time, 10/13/03)

Senate Select Committee On Intelligence Unanimous Report: “Conclusion 13. The Report On The Former Ambassador’s Trip To Niger, Disseminated In March 2002, Did Not Change Any Analysts’ Assessments Of The Iraq-Niger Uranium Deal.” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq, 7/7/04)

“For Most Analysts, The Information In The Report Lent More Credibility To The Original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Report On The Uranium Deal, But State Department Bureau Of Intelligence And Research (IN) Analysts Believed That The Report Supported Their Assessments That Niger Was Unlikely To Be Willing Or Able To Sell Uranium.” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq, 7/7/04)

CIA Said Wilson’s Findings Did Not Resolve The Issue. “Because [Wilson’s] report, in our view, did not resolve whether Iraq was or was not seeking uranium from abroad, it was given a normal and wide distribution, but we did not brief it to the president, vice president or other senior administration officials. We also had to consider that the former Nigerien officials knew that what they were saying would reach the U.S. government and that this might have influenced what they said.” (Central Intelligence Agency, “Statement By George J. Tenet, Director Of Central Intelligence,” Press Release 7/11/03)

The Butler Report Claimed That The President’s State Of the Union Statement On Uranium From Africa, “Was Well-Founded.” “We conclude that, on the basis of the intelligence assessments at the time, covering both Niger and the Democratic Republic of Congo, the statements on Iraqi attempts to buy uranium from Africa in the Government’s dossier, and by the Prime Minister in the House of Commons, were well-founded. By extension, we conclude also that the statement in President Bush’s State of the Union Address of 28 January 2003 that: ‘The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.’ was well-founded.” (The Rt. Hon. The Lord Butler Of Brockwell, “Review Of Intelligence, On Weapons Of Mass Destruction,” 7/14/04)

Sens. Roberts, Bond And Hatch All Dismissed Wilson’s Claims:

Sens. Pat Roberts (R-KS), Kit Bond (R-MO) And Orrin Hatch (R-UT) All Stated, “On At Least Two Occasions [Wilson] Admitted That He Had No Direct Knowledge To Support Some Of His Claims And That He Was Drawing On Either Unrelated Past Experiences Or No Information At All.” (Select Committee On Intelligence, “Additional Views Of Chairman Pat Roberts, Joined By Senator Christopher S. Bond And Senator Orrin G. Hatch; Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,” U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

“The Former Ambassador, Either By Design Or Through Ignorance, Gave The American People And, For That Matter, The World A Version Of Events That Was Inaccurate, Unsubstantiated, And Misleading.” (Select Committee On Intelligence, “Additional Views Of Chairman Pat Roberts, Joined By Senator Christopher S. Bond And Senator Orrin G. Hatch; Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,” U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

“[J]oe Wilson Told Anyone Who Would Listen That The President Had Lied To The American People, That The Vice President Had Lied And That He Had ‘Debunked’ The Claim That Iraq Was Seeking Uranium From Africa … Not Only Did He NOT ‘Debunk’ The Claim, He Actually Gave Some Intelligence Analysts Even More Reason To Believe That It May Be True.” (Select Committee On Intelligence, “Additional Views Of Chairman Pat Roberts, Joined By Senator Christopher S. Bond And Senator Orrin G. Hatch; Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,” U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

Wilson Tied To The 2004 Kerry Campaign For President:

Wilson Endorsed Kerry In October 2003. “Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who accused the Bush administration of manipulating intelligence to exaggerate the threat from Iraq, endorsed Democrat John Kerry for president … In a conference call with New Hampshire reporters, Wilson said he and Kerry have shared the experience of challenging their government – Wilson when he questioned the ‘rush to war’ with Iraq, Kerry when he challenged America’s role in Vietnam.” (David Tirrell-Wysocki, “Former Ambassador Wilson Endorses Kerry In Presidential Race,” The Associated Press, 10/23/03)

“Wilson … Said He Has Long Been A Kerry Supporter And Has Contributed $2,000 To The Campaign This Year. He Said He Has Been Advising Kerry On Foreign Policy For About Five Months And Will Campaign For Kerry, Including A Trip To New Hampshire …” (David Tirrell-Wysocki, “Former Ambassador Wilson Endorses Kerry In Presidential Race,” The Associated Press, 10/23/03)

“In Mid-May, [Wilson] Began Talking To Kerry’s Advisers About Helping The Campaign; He Made His First Donation May 23. Kerry Himself Had Not Met Wilson Until Tuesday Night At A Campaign Fund-Raiser In Potomac, Md., A Kerry Aide Said …” (Patrick Healy and Wayne Washington, “In Probe Of CIA Leak, Two Sides See Politics,” The Boston Globe, 10/2/03)

“[Kerry Advisor Rand] Beers Said Wilson Communicates With Campaign Advisers At Least Once A Week.” (Patrick Healy and Wayne Washington, “In Probe Of CIA Leak, Two Sides See Politics,” The Boston Globe, 10/2/03)

10 posted on 10/28/2005 2:52:39 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: p23185

14 posted on 10/28/2005 2:56:57 PM PDT by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: Midwest Patriot
Apparently this is not over - Fitzgerald would have said so if it were.

He's going to keep digging until he concocts something on Rove.

What a whole lotta nuthin' this investigation is!

15 posted on 10/28/2005 2:59:29 PM PDT by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: Baynative
Sandy Berger told the Grand Jury that his theft of Top Secret Classified Documents was inadvertant. Yet, that wasn't considered a mistruth. But, then again, his crime wasn't considered serious either.

Did Berger testify before a Grand Jury? His case was handled as a misdemeanor by a Magistrate which I get the impression is something just above traffic court. Thanks to our career people in DoJ, Berger's case was a travesty of justice.

16 posted on 10/28/2005 3:00:11 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: MikeA
Maybe Lawrence Walsh can join the investigation and indict some Republicans on Nov 1st, 2006. It would be par for the course for politically tainted Special Prosecutors.
17 posted on 10/28/2005 3:05:51 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: All

Sorry to interrupt, if you guys want to listen to Levin break the charges down with Victoria Toensig who put together the law... join us. Please bring your info and post also.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1511184/posts

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18 posted on 10/28/2005 3:08:41 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick & Bucket Brigade)
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To: Rome2000

You have done amazing work... may I steal it for the betterment of conservative spirits?


19 posted on 10/28/2005 3:12:40 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick & Bucket Brigade)
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To: MikeA
Take a tip. No matter which law enforcement ask you anything, just do a Clintoon, can't remember. Law enforcement will take this hit real bad.
20 posted on 10/28/2005 3:14:11 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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