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To: Common Tator

I didn't see anything in all of that about Libby testifying that he first heard about Plame's status from Russert. Isn't that what it is all about?


113 posted on 10/29/2005 10:18:01 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
AS I understand it Libby says Miller, Russert, and Cooper were his sources and perhaps some other reporters mentioned it as well. Libby says several reporters talked to him about it. They were asking confirmation. Libby says can't remember who they all were. He said he told some of them he didn't know and some of them that he had heard the same thing from other reporters.

Miller says she heard it elsewhere but she is not sure if she told Libby or Libby told her about Plame. Miller only agreed to tesify if she did not have to give her other source on Plame to Fitzgerald. After 85 days in jail Fitzgerald agreed not to ask Miller about her other sources or when they told her about Plame.

Miller thinks she talked about it with Liddy on June 10th.. but is not absolutely sure she did. She may have told Libby the gals name was FLAME not PLame or maybe it was Libby who told her the name was FLAME. Or she may have told Libby the name was FlAME but knew it was Plame and did it just to see if he would correct her.. but she thinks he must not have corrected her. But She just can't remember. Her notes do say someone named FLAME reccomended Wilson for the job with the CIA. Bet your rump Miller will be asked to reveal her other source in the trial. She will not be punised if she refuses, but her testimony will be stricken.

Liddy said Russert talked to him about PLAME but Russert says he did not talk to Liddy about PLAME. They charged Liddy with perjury for saying Russert talked to him about Plame when Russert said he didn't.

Cooper did talk to Liddy about Plame. Both Liddy and Cooper agree they talked about it. Cooper says Liddy brought it up. He says Liddy said other reporters had asked Liddy about Plame and Liddy wanted to know if Cooper knew anthing about it. Cooper said he told Liddy other reporters had told him about it too.

Libby on the other hand said Cooper brought it up. He said Cooper said other reporters had told him about it and Cooper wanted Liddy to confirm it. Liddy said he told Cooper that other reporters had told him the same thing too.

That seems to be it in a nut shell.

114 posted on 10/29/2005 10:46:16 PM PDT by Common Tator
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One thing that Miller and Cooper agree on. Liddy told them not to go out on a limb for Wilson. He told them that what Wilson told the CIA and what he put in his New York Times articles were not the same thing.

The Senate special committee on Iraq published a report. The report said that Wilson told the CIA that Saddam DID try to get yellow cake from Niger. Wilson also told the Senate that his wife did not recommend him for the job.. Wilson told them that Cheney had requested him. But the CIA said his wife got him the job and Cheney did not request him for the job and that Wilson told them Saddam tried to get yellow cake from Niger.

Wilson printed the same lies in his book.

The Senate committee said Wilson either did not tell the truth in his sworn testimony before the senate or the told the CIA untruths in his oral reports on his trip to Niger. They did not charge him with perjury.

The question is will the CIA people that told the senate Wilson lied get to testify in the trial. Were any of them the sources for Miller, Russert and Cooper.

If the reports by the CIA were intended to be used in a public speech in the UN were they classified. If not the people who leaked to Miller, Russert,and Cooper might very well testify who they told what and when.

Libby also says Miller and Cooper contacted him. If Lubby can prove they already knew about it, then it seems more likey the were seeking confirmation as Libby says rather than Libby trying to feed them the story.

If Libby's goal was to tell the press that what Wilson was saying was untrue..then that would be a point better made by pointing out Wilson was Democratic operative not a neutral observer. How do you say Wilson lied about yellow cake because his wife got him the job.

Dan Rather lied about Bush and Texas natioal guard because Rathers wife got him the job at CBS? Say what?

The more I consider I think Fitzgerald fully expected to get an indictment and then accept a plea bargan for a misdemeanor. He expected to say the Jury wanted to hang Libby but I think a misdemeanor is appropreate in this case. That way the Democrats could say Libby is a crook but a kind hearted prosecutor let him off easy. But at least he got fired and everyone knows he wasguilty of a very serios felony. The democrats could say ot just proves how crooked and slick the Bush administration and Karl Rove are.

I think Liddy said screw you. Lets blow your game wide open in open court. He just might get it done.

115 posted on 10/29/2005 11:19:31 PM PDT by Common Tator
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