[marktwain]

Just to add to your list of whackos include in that the government beauracrats who have mostly been infected by the watermelon types plus their ability to create "standards" that are in fact laws that no elected representative ever voted on.

At one "required" meeting in Yuma, I learned that one of the government employees who was running the meeting had expressed the opinion that the earth would be better off without humans. She did not say this in the meeting, but had expressed it privately to a coworker.

[Proud_texan]

I think as a general rule conservatives go to work in competitive business whereas all the commies go to work for the gooberment; they aren't measured on productivity (heck, is there even a measure of productivity?), it's very hard for them to be fired, etc, etc, etc.

It's like a very large company I did some consulting work for. A division manager issued a mandate and I was working with the line managers to implement it and it just wasn't happening. I was getting nowhere so I took a line manager out for beers after work and after a few he got a little loose and he finally admitted "hey, I don't think it's a good idea and I don't want to do it. I can stall for a couple of years and by that time the division manager will have moved on and the new one won't know anything about it."

Which is why it'll never be fixed until we have a congress and a president that'll starve the beast by shutting off funding. I'm not optimistic, not even Reagan could do it, but it's gonna require something that "radical" to rein them in.