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To: KarinG1

The sad part to me is that the process has been circumvented.

We elected representatives. The President has the right to appoint whomever he sees fit. The Congress has the right to advise and consent. If conservatives didn't like Miers, and our elected representatives thought she was not fit for the SCOTUS, they should have been forced to vote her down...thus enacting the will of those who voted for them.

Truth is, the conservatives said they didn't trust Bush, but they didn't really trust the process or their elected representatives to work for them.

Those who sought a "Constitutionalist" to be appointed to the Supreme Court, then found a way around the Constitution, and the woman withdrew before even speaking a word at the hearings.

Sad day to me. Rush said, "We're now united." Yeah, until the next candidate comes along and Rush, or Schafly, or Coulter find that they didn't dot their "i's" or cross their "t's" to their liking.


14 posted on 10/28/2005 2:43:06 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
The dems will skewer any right wing candidate they put up, and some Repub Senators will not allow them out of committee after this.

Should they actually get through, they stand a good chance of being voted down in the full Senate until tempers cool.

In any case, the court will now go back into session with a known quantity in the retired and rehired queen of womens issues and some important issues will be coming before her.

Issues that would have been decided differently because the balance on the court is still the same as it was.

But I digress........

19 posted on 10/28/2005 2:53:43 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: dawn53
Those who sought a "Constitutionalist" to be appointed to the Supreme Court, then found a way around the Constitution, and the woman withdrew before even speaking a word at the hearings.

Since when is exercising your First Amendment right going "around the Constitution?"

No one "forced" Miers to withdraw. She didn't have a gun held to her head and told to "withdraw or else!" People spoke up and the White House reacted.

You do realize don't you that we are the sovereigns in this country.....not the politicians?

34 posted on 10/28/2005 3:45:05 AM PDT by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: dawn53
"until the next candidate comes along and Rush, or Schafly, or Coulter find that they didn't dot their "i's" or cross their "t's" to their liking."
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facts in black in white, her own words sunk Miers.
You choose to ignore them, WHY??
Your post is a great example of someone who does not understand the role of the press and the new media to give feed back to the isolated few in power. The republic is stronger for it.Can you explain the i's and the t's that she crossed that made her a good candidate? I doubt you can and the process for once actually worked,, the conservative voters spoke and the message was delivered to 1600 Pennsylvania ave.
36 posted on 10/28/2005 3:49:17 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: dawn53
Truth is, the conservatives said they didn't trust Bush

Bloated budget, Title IX, Campaign finance, immigration...this President has done what he wanted and conservatives have played along. If this were the Democraps, the left wing would have sent Ted Kennedy up to run against him in '04. ..

Bush promise a conservative bench. Ya gotta do better than Miers.

45 posted on 10/28/2005 4:15:54 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: dawn53; flashbunny; Do not dub me shapka broham

'Found a way around the Constitution?' You mean we protested a dumb decision, and our elected representatives heard us, but the Constitution doesn't allow dissent now? Check out the First Amendment sometime, sister!

Stop bashing the base and get in line to support the new conservative nominee, whoever that is. Or get off the bus. Either way, STFU about Miers. You RINOs are really getting whiny, having lost your very first head-to-head battle with conservatives. We beat you in public instead of letting you get away with your usual RINO tactic of slipping in the knife when the lights were dimmed, and you can't handle that. What's so damn sad is you babies can't accept you've NEVER had public support. You even have to pretend you're conservatives to get elected.

And one more thing: your silly 'process' argument is a joke, just like the hearings you wanted us all to wait for. What was she going to tell us, her favorite color and shoe size? She sure as hell wasn't going to address anything controversial--Roberts didn't, and according to you, she's his equal or better, so why would she? Oh, that's right, because she was the best person for the job, how could I possibly forget that? /sarc


56 posted on 10/28/2005 4:38:15 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Miers did the right thing. Now the President can, by appointing Alex Kozinski, 9th Circuit COA.)
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To: dawn53
Truth is, the conservatives said they didn't trust Bush, but they didn't really trust the process or their elected representatives to work for them.

I don't think you truly understand the process. Sure, the President can appoint whoever he sees fit. If conservatives don't like the choice, what are we supposed to do? Wait until the hearings begin and the nominee has built some momentum and then quietly call our "elected representatives" and tell them we don't like the nominee? That's not the way you get action in Washington. You have to make your voice heard early and often. The process worked EXACTLY the way it should have in this case. When it became clear to the President that the base was not going to stand for this nominee, she withdrew her name.

57 posted on 10/28/2005 4:39:50 AM PDT by RightFighter
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To: dawn53
Did the Pres. appoint "whomever he sees fit"?

I seem to remember Democrats demanding Bush pick someone from their "list" (And Miers was on the democrat approved "list").

I question whether Bush acted independently because Reid had a huge smile of relief when Miers was first announced.
67 posted on 10/28/2005 5:03:26 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: dawn53
the conservatives said they didn't trust Bush, but they didn't really trust the process or their elected representatives to work for them.

Nope. We just didn't trust Bush.

77 posted on 10/28/2005 7:26:19 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: dawn53
The sad part to me is that the process has been circumvented. We elected representatives. The President has the right to appoint whomever he sees fit.

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that the democratic process is circumvented when people voice opposition to a government policy or decision? Bush voluntarily withdrew the nomination in response to criticism. The people merely persuaded Bush to make another nomination.

79 posted on 10/28/2005 9:22:41 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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