[Almondjoy]

I didn't say I knew.. neither of us can prove when life begins. I'm not invoking God's will. A life may begin at conception.

I just don't claim that I know what God wants.

If I'm sinning I'm man enough to own up to it.

[MHGinTN]

You offered (quite cryptically), "... neither of us can prove when life begins." Actually, the very nature of IVF uses the FACT that at least one lifetime begins with conception as the fundamental tenent of the process. And yes I can prove when at least one lifetime begins, scientifically.

Now answer a question for me, please: does abortion kill a human being?