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To: MHGinTN

No way to know.. while I believe that all life is precious and that I don't think it's right to have an abortion as a way of birth control.

I don't know for sure. I may be killing life.. in the sense that cells are alive.. but am I killing a soul. That no one can answer.


109 posted on 10/28/2005 5:29:30 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy
So, to the question 'does abortion kill a human being' you are answering 'no way to know'? That is the most outrageous dissemble I believe I have ever read at FR! Think about it, readers: a baby born sixteen weeks before the typical 40 weeks lives and grows older (I'd post the story again, but everyone has read it), yet this poster chooses to dissemble the scientific facts and hedge the 'religious' notions in order to dismiss the truth that a baby in the womb is alive (4D ultrasound video proves that graphically), is a member of the human species, and is living the lifetime begun at conception. THAT is the essence of lieberal dissembling regarding abortion ... dehumanize that which is the target of liberal empowerment via wonton destruction; hook more women and men into accepting the wrong, then depend upon such misguided souls for political empowerment.

Now, let's look at the science and common sense.

How does a member of a species become a member?... Is it by default, conceived by members of the species therefore the conceived must be a member of same species? Or is there some magic thinking process which conveys species membership only upon those chosen by some means known to the older members of the species? Or is there some nebulous non-entity segment in gestation, a period during which the conceived could become any number of other species? Of course it is the first, by default, those conceived by two of the species are therefore members of the parents' species ... so far in the history of life on planet earth.

Is there some means by which value as a living member of the species can be conveyed?... In the natural sense, it is always upon birth into the air world, with all species. But are humans merely another species, or are humans somehow different? If we continue to dehumanize our preborn, we will prove ourselves merely another of the animal species on this planet. But I choose to believe we are different, if for no other reason than we have reached the state whereby we CAN be more than the natural world in which we eat and breath and seek shelter. Which is to be chosen as the path for future growth?... Mere animal status, or something more? The poster to whom I am responding would have the reader believe alive membership status in a species is arbitrary, something depending upon the choice of the other species member giving life support. What do you the reader believe? what is the higher level of 'choice'? Yes, CHOICE, for beliefs are chosen when it is all said and done. Do we choose to dehumanize our alive unborn or cherish them as fellow, innocent, to-be-protect members of our species? Almond Joy appears comfortable with the first (dehumanize the unborn and toss the 'moral' outcome aside for someone else to address), but how about the casual reader of this thread?

110 posted on 10/28/2005 8:48:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Almondjoy

You offered, "... but am I killing a soul. That no one can answer." BTW, I would answer that no human can kill a living soul since a living soul is only within the grasp of those beyond this plane ... that which lives is beyond the total terminus of spacetime as we define it so impotently. But that's just my beliefs talking and I'm seeking to stick to scientifically sound grounds in this discussion.


123 posted on 10/28/2005 9:57:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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