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Expulsion For Gay Comments? Duquesne Student Resists Punishment
WTAE via Drudge ^ | 10.27.05

Posted on 10/27/2005 1:31:05 PM PDT by Coleus

Expulsion For Gay Comments? Duquesne Student Resists Punishment

Catholic University Sanctions Student for Calling Homosexuality 'Subhuman'

A Duquesne University sophomore will risk being kicked out of school rather than write an essay as punishment for expressing his view that homosexuality is "subhuman."

Ryan Miner, 19, of Hagerstown, Md., was sanctioned by Duquesne after posting his view in The Facebook, an online directory that is not related to the university.

Miner opposed an effort by other students to form a Gay-Straight Alliance group, an issue that is still being debated by the university.

"I believe as a student that my First Amendment rights in the Constitution were subverted and attacked," said Miner.

After Miner's comments appeared online, some students complained to the school.

After a hearing, the Office of Judicial Affairs found Miner guilty of violating the University Code, which prohibits harassment or discrimination based on sexual orientation, among other groups.

A 10-page paper was assigned as punishment. Miner said he refuses to write it and will file an appeal.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
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To: airedale; spunkets

Same sex acts are indeed immoral, unnatural, and unhealthy. Nothing wrong with pointing that out; in fact, it needs to be pointed out a lot more.


81 posted on 10/27/2005 5:07:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: scripter

And after your comment is a quote wherein he says that he was referring to behavior.


82 posted on 10/27/2005 5:08:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

"Same sex acts are indeed immoral, unnatural, and unhealthy."

Does this include sodomy by heterosexuals? The Bible condemns all sodomy -- not just homosexual sodomy. Does this mean that many heterosexuals are "sub-human"?


83 posted on 10/27/2005 5:12:06 PM PDT by calreaganfan
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To: calreaganfan

Do you have a bee in your bonnet or something?

We're not discussing sex acts performed by people of the opposite sex. We're discussing the labeling of homosexual acts "subhuman".


84 posted on 10/27/2005 5:18:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

"We're not discussing sex acts performed by people of the opposite sex. We're discussing the labeling of homosexual acts 'subhuman'."

First of all, the student said that homosexuals are "sub-human" -- not their sex acts. Secondly, the sex act that most in this thread are referring to is sodomy. I'm willing to bet that millions of heterosexuals have committed sodomy. Does this make them "sub-human"? You referred to "unhealthy" sex acts. Is heterosexual sodomy not "unhealthy"?


85 posted on 10/27/2005 5:24:57 PM PDT by calreaganfan
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To: airedale
"The implication is still that the person is subhuman."

No. That implicaiton is not true logically.

86 posted on 10/27/2005 5:29:31 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: calreaganfan

If you read what the student said in explanation (by reading the whole thread you'd have seen that), he explained he was referring to homosexual acts.

Second, anal sodomy (which is what people usually and generally mean when they refer to sodomy) is unhealthy, immoral and unnatural whoever practices it. But, as I said, we're specifically speaking about homosexuals.

So what if husband and wives practice it. Homosexuals are often into S&M, which is sick stuff. If men and women practice it it's still sick stuff. But that's not the topic at hand.


87 posted on 10/27/2005 5:31:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: calreaganfan
"First of all, the student said that homosexuals are "sub-human" -- not their sex acts. "

Try reading the article.

88 posted on 10/27/2005 5:32:35 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Coleus

I'm not sure "disordered" can fairly be equated to "subhuman."


89 posted on 10/27/2005 5:34:59 PM PDT by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: little jeremiah

"Second, anal sodomy (which is what people usually and generally mean when they refer to sodomy) is unhealthy, immoral and unnatural whoever practices it. But, as I said, we're specifically speaking about homosexuals."

My point is why single out homosexuals for being "sub-human" when heterosexuals are committing the same "immoral" and "unnatural" sex act? If, as you say, the student was referring to the sex act and not the person, then millions of heterosexuals are also "sub-human".


90 posted on 10/27/2005 5:35:44 PM PDT by calreaganfan
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To: Cicero
"Subhuman" was a poor choice of words.

Yet accurate and logical...

We can't have logic or dissent at universities while they are trying to molest the minds and bodies of young people, can we?

In a biological sense, the very essence of the human creature is defined by sexual reproduction. Perversion of that makes you much less so in the scheme of natural selection and/or evolution, doesn't it?

91 posted on 10/27/2005 5:40:09 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: calreaganfan
My point is why single out homosexuals for being "sub-human" when heterosexuals are committing the same "immoral" and "unnatural" sex act?

see #91 for your answer...

92 posted on 10/27/2005 5:42:34 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

"In a biological sense, the very essence of the human creature is defined by sexual reproduction. Perversion of that makes you much less so in the scheme of natural selection and/or evolution, doesn't it?"

Then I guess we can agree that millions of heterosexuals are also "sub-human". It's funny that the student singled out homosexuals when the Bible makes no distinction.


93 posted on 10/27/2005 5:43:07 PM PDT by calreaganfan
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To: conserv13
Is that all there is to being homosexual? What if two males have other sexual contact besides the act you mentioned?

Go away -try DU maybe if you wish to debate the finer points of sex between homosexuals versus sex between animals

94 posted on 10/27/2005 5:43:54 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: calreaganfan
Does this include sodomy by heterosexuals? The Bible condemns all sodomy -- not just homosexual sodomy. Does this mean that many heterosexuals are "sub-human"?

You too? Try DU...

95 posted on 10/27/2005 5:45:26 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

"You too? Try DU..."

That's a brilliant reply!


96 posted on 10/27/2005 5:46:32 PM PDT by calreaganfan
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To: Cicero
"Subhuman" was a poor choice of words. To say that the conduct is wrong or disordered is fine, but "subhuman" introduces all kinds of Nazi implications, or NARAL implications if you prefer. No class of human beings is subhuman, unless you use the term loosely, which is dangerous.

Exactly.
This type of rhetoric ultimately helps gain public sympathy for the gay rights forces.

It was a stupid thing to say.

97 posted on 10/27/2005 5:48:55 PM PDT by Jorge (Q)
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To: airedale
The Catechism talks about the behavior, but doesn't say anyone who practices it is not really human.

Could it be considered sub-human or inhuman behavior?

98 posted on 10/27/2005 5:49:11 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: calreaganfan
It's funny that the student singled out homosexuals when the Bible makes no distinction.

I'm an atheist talking about BIOLOGY and EVOLUTION, not the Bible...

99 posted on 10/27/2005 5:52:14 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: The Louiswu

Do the male animals merely mount or do they insert?


100 posted on 10/27/2005 5:52:35 PM PDT by LittleBoPeep
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