Students hear both sides of Minutemen debate [South Texas]

Valley Morning Star ^ | Oct 27, 2005 | FERNANDO DEL VALLE

[SwinneySwitch]

"There is no way without proper training to distinguish between an illegal immigrant and a citizen," he said."

Why would 25 "citizens" be traveling, on foot, in the dark, on a private ranch, in South Texas, at 1:30 am in the morning, Figueroa?!

[ncountylee]

Night scope bird watching?

[emiller]

The two sides of the debate---
1) we should run through the cornfields with nets, chasing them like in "Planet of the Apes" or

2) Use those robocop robots with the missiles on their shoulders

[SwinneySwitch]

No, mostly males with only a few birds.

[Sister_T]

"We must protect people's human rights. We must protect people's civil rights," Chavez said. "They have no right hunting down human beings. These people are not trained. They don't know what they're doing out there. The truth is they have an anti-Latino agenda. They're trying to incite a race war. They're trying to incite the browns to step up against them."

Ah, yes. Play the race card when trying to defend the indefensible.

[Tzimisce]

Racism? I've found that laws tend to only "discriminate" against the people who break them.

[SwinneySwitch]

MM Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.

[RonF]

So, what did the kids think?

[luvbach1]

The issue is really very simple. One side wants and recognizes our borders and the other doesn't.

[gubamyster]

ping

[Oatka]

While the Minutemen insisted they are patriots in a non-violent campaign to curb illegal immigration, . . .
I wish the Minutemen, et al wouldn't fall into this guilt-trip trap by defending their patriotism and just stick with the fact that they are exercisizing an American citizen's right to protect their country when the government fails to do so.

. . . opponents called them racists . . .
Here, I like Victor Davis Hanson's reply that "that old slur is SO pre-911" and add that the MMs aren't guilt-ridden white liberals - or politicians who will assume the fetal position every time that charge is hurled.

[TXBubba]

So, what did the kids think?

I have the same question. My only fear is that they have been trained in public schools to react to the emotional misinformation and not the logical information. I notice the only argument presented in opposition was "they are racists, they are an extension of the KKK" etc. Did I miss where they said why it was great to have so many illegals crossing the borders?

[afnamvet]

"We are simply citizens who are tired of a Congress not doing their jobs," Garza said, referring to the government's failure to stop illegal immigration.

Thank you Minute Men for helping to secure our borders.

[blackie]

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!

[LaineyDee]

We must protect people's civil rights," Chavez said.

I thought you had to be a citizen of THIS country to claim "civil rights"? Maybe I missed something?

[Texas WOP]

Just sitting here enjoying the posts. La Raza can scream all they want as far as I'm concerned.

The facts are that we have a flawed immigration policy and the MM provide a real and honorable service.

[SwinneySwitch]

The kids were of divided opinions!

At least they were interested enough to go to the Forum!

[mtbopfuyn]

two attorneys for a Mexican-American civil rights organization.

Excuse me, but how does an illegal need an attorney for a Mexican-AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS organization?

There is no way without proper training to distinguish between an illegal immigrant and a citizen

What a pile of manure. Anyone, brown, white, or purple who isn't authorized to be on a rancher's land is at the very least trespassing and should to be detained.