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To: kjam22
I agree with you. But I also believe that most ideologues lose the battle.

If advocating open government, and decisions based on knowledge and reason instead of stealth and emotion, then I am proud to wear the label "ideologue." I'm in the company of the founders, who advocated a limited and transparent government that operated with the blessing and support of the people it serves.

If that battle is lost, we will become mere subjects of an impenetrable system. And you may well be right. The battle may well be lost, hustled on its way by well intentioned people who are willing to stoop to stealth to "get their way."

These days.... I'm an accept they way they are, and then try to win within that framework type of guy.

I urge you to reconsider accepting "stealth" as a legitimate social/political tactic, and consider that perhaps reasoned discussion of issues and process on their merits is better for the health and well being of our social structure.

95 posted on 10/26/2005 7:41:12 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
that perhaps reasoned discussion of issues and process on their merits is better for the health and well being of our social structure.

We really do agree... I'm serious. The only problem is that it takes two sides to have a reasonded discussion of issues etc. You and I can do that all day... but if the other side doesn't ... we just lose.

I would not advise Miers to be upfront and transparent with this committee if she wants to be on the court. I would advise her to do just what Roberts did. Be vague. Roberts was smart about it. Miers is going to need to rely on social skills. That's the bottom line I think.

The left is waiting for her. They saved all of their amo for this nominee. She's got a tough fight after being shot up by our side too.

99 posted on 10/26/2005 7:45:29 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Cboldt

In proverbs the bible talks about "saying nice things to those who don't like you etc". I would say to Miers.... when you get to committee, and when Kennedy says good afternoon Ms Miers.... she should say "Mr. Kennedy, this is truly an honor. Your family has been so much a part of shaping this country. I always admired your brothers, and I admire the countless hours that you personally have spent working for the American people. It is truly an honor to have you evaluating me for the Supreme Court. It will go down as a high point in my life and carreer." And that should be the tone, for the whole process, while she doesn't tell them anything. In my opinion, that is her only chance.


104 posted on 10/26/2005 7:51:23 AM PDT by kjam22
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