Posted on 10/25/2005 9:32:46 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
Absolutely brilliant response. Most excellent.
You don't burn down the house of the guy who owes you money. China is now a major creditor of the U.S. along with Japan and England.
Yes, but did you know that Hawaii is a state, filled with American citzens, not a foreign country?
>>>"I do not trust food grown overseas. "
Back in Bill Klingon's presidency, there was the case of a large Democratic contributor who was a food broker/supplier. He had purchased strawberries from Guatamala (or somewhere in that vicinity) and clandestinely (illegally) substituted them for U.S. grown strawberries. He sold them into the U.S. school lunch program, which requires domestically-raised food. These strawberries caused a fair number of children to get sick. I can't recall if any died. But it made the national papers.
The contaminant was e. coli -- from sewage runoff I believe. This is precisely the problem at hand. That is why that imported food, whether labeled organic or conventional, needs inspection for e. coli and other contaminants.
Okay, you've strayed into the goofy lane. It's far more likely that a crazed communist economic advisor will collapse our economy by simply not buying our debt.
I still can't find that amber list, but I did find out if we keep paying farmers to set aside their land and not farm it in the name of conservation, it is a 'green box' item, one that is protected by the WTO collecitivists? WTO generated, US taxpayer subsidized subsidy, that is.
Please post the amber list, I know we all would like to see what's on it.
You don't remember the year 1996, when Hong Kong was sold out to China by the UK?
If memory serves, the hand over was in 1997. I don't remember any sale.
Maybe after a good night's sleep you've had time to rethink this. I say challenge is good and hardship is bad. Some people hit themselves with a stick because it feels so good when they stop. I don't. I use my extra energy to make more money. As far as I'm concerned, you can pay all the import taxes and hit yourself with a stick all you want. Knock yourself out (literally).
Leave me and the rest of us out on these tax-hikes and self-imposed hardships.
My opinion is that a subsidy in the name of the environment is still a subsidy (the operative fact being that checks are being cut), whereas banning production (say, to save the snail darter) is not, because no money changes hands.
Sold out.
General Xiong Guangkai should ring a bell with you.
Most of our history had speculative land investment up until the settling of the west. What percent of the population was farmers in the 1830's? Most people grew their own food and even in the cities they raised livestock to add to their diet.
I also recall that there was an expansion of farming during that era. You see Willie the reason for those canals was that we wasn't shipping imported wheat to Chicago but shipping the products of newly created farms in the Midwest
And the real interesting thing is that for most of our history with maybe the exception of 1837 we didn't have any problems with food supply. Yet when an old socialist like FDR creates the farm program we are to believe that it is the only way our nation will survive.
Oh no direct cause for recessions? 1871 recession - cause the Chicago Fire. I can name others started because of wars or threat of wars.
Low price food should be tax-free
Farm Subsidies are not tax free, I guess in your mind it is proper for Donald Trump to subsidized your corn flakes?
Bush imposed tarriffs on steel imports, hardly a free trader.
And what is your problem? you defend farm programs created by old New Deal socialists like Henry Wallace as good yet call other conservatives marxists. Have you ever studied what other countries have farm programs like ours, they are all left leaning nations.
Have you ever researched what happens when governments take an active role in farming? In the end it never ends up for the betterment of the people. From ancient Rome to 1930's Germany the little farmer ended up regreting the government involvement.
What you and Willie seem to ignore is that the industry you are trying to save was dying anyway with subsidies. There is less family farms now than there was ten years ago. Almost no one wants to farm anymore because you can't make any money doing it and that with fifty years of price supports.
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