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Cheney Told Aide of C.I.A. Officer, Notes Show
NY Times ^ | 10/24/05 | DAVID JOHNSTON, RICHARD W. STEVENSON and DOUGLAS JEHL

Posted on 10/24/2005 6:28:34 PM PDT by nj26

I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, first learned about the C.I.A. officer at the heart of the leak investigation in a conversation with Mr. Cheney weeks before her identity became public in 2003, lawyers involved in the case said Monday.

Notes of the previously undisclosed conversation between Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney on June 12, 2003, appear to differ from Mr. Libby’s testimony to a federal grand jury that he initially learned about the C.I.A. officer, Valerie Wilson, from journalists, the lawyers said.

The notes, taken by Mr. Libby during the conversation, for the first time place Mr. Cheney in the middle of an effort by the White House to learn about Ms. Wilson’s husband, Joseph C. Wilson IV, who was questioning the administration’s handling of intelligence about Iraq’s nuclear program to justify the war.

Lawyers said the notes show that Mr. Cheney knew that Ms. Wilson worked at the C.I.A. more than a month before her identity was made public and her undercover status was disclosed in a syndicated column by Robert D. Novak on July 14, 2003.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: cheney; cialeak; davidjohnston; douglasjehl; jehl; joewilson; johnston; richardstevenson; richardwstevenson; stevenson; valerieplame
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To: kabar

Libby makes me sick!


421 posted on 10/24/2005 9:19:45 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: lugsoul
Give it up pal, you simply don't get it.... I will not fall for your "I'm not a Bush Basher" defense, when your posting history proves otherwise. I refuse to grant you even that much respect, you are a STAIN on the Conservative movement at best, and a DU Troll at worst, and you're simply not worth conversing with... So get over the fact that I won't address your questions, it's nothing personal, It's just that I believe you are Troll or even worse.... A Libertarian!
422 posted on 10/24/2005 9:20:18 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Howlin; All

Maybe this is wishful thinking but is it possible the indictments will be on the CIA side of things?


423 posted on 10/24/2005 9:21:35 PM PDT by olde north church (Girding for disappointment.)
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To: colorcountry
But should it have? It causes be to question his integrity.

I'm not sure. I don't know how I would react in the same situation. Would I continue to do work for a traitor if my work were honest and unrelated? Probably. Would I pursue a relationship with the traitor to ensure future completely legal and above board business? I just don't have the answer. It's easy to call Scooter a whore, but we all put up with personally distasteful people in business because we need to earn a living and take care of our families.

424 posted on 10/24/2005 9:22:35 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: gusopol3

He was on Letterman Friday night. Savage played the out take where he said that he thought Rove and Libby should both be exterminated -- at which point the crowd roared with laughter (along with Letterman)...


425 posted on 10/24/2005 9:23:07 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Sam Hill

What about Pincus?


426 posted on 10/24/2005 9:23:14 PM PDT by STARWISE (The liberals and terrorists belong to the same club: THE HATE AND DESTROY AMERICA CLUB.)
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To: huck von finn

Thanks for your words on wisdom Huck, I'll go to bed now that you have spoken. You really have a talent for entering into a gun fight with a knife


427 posted on 10/24/2005 9:23:17 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Suzy Quzy
The expose' on Libby said he was Marc Rich's attorney on the pardon deal.

Can you show me where it says that?

428 posted on 10/24/2005 9:23:45 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: MJY1288
"I will not fall for your "I'm not a Bush Basher" defense, when your posting history proves otherwise."

You continue to repeat this baseless charge yet you can't even post one itty bitty Bush bash from me? Just one? Perhaps the sarcastic post above was correct about your brain power.

429 posted on 10/24/2005 9:23:52 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: Suzy Quzy

Is that why the whole Marc Rich pardon was swept under the carpet? Also, why would Cheney hire him????


430 posted on 10/24/2005 9:24:30 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: STARWISE

You shouldn't pretend Sham is interested in facts.


431 posted on 10/24/2005 9:25:29 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: Arizona Carolyn

did his head bobble maliciously?


432 posted on 10/24/2005 9:25:32 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: lugsoul
OK, You're a Bushbot.... You win!!!!

Good night

433 posted on 10/24/2005 9:25:36 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Tarnsman
Vice President Aaron Burr was indicted by two states for the murder of Alexander Hamilton. Vice President Spiro Agnew negotiated an indictment for failing to pay taxes (rather than bribery), and resigned from office.


Here is a 2000 Dept. Of Justice Memorandum which discusses the subject ............


"The OLC memorandum concluded that all federal civil officers except the President are subject to indictment and criminal prosecution while still in office; the President is uniquely immune from such process. Second, the Department addressed the question later that same year in connection with the grand jury investigation of then-Vice President Spiro Agnew. In response to a motion by the Vice President to enjoin grand jury proceedings against him, then-Solicitor General Robert Bork filed a brief arguing that, consistent with the Constitution, the Vice President could be subject to indictment and criminal prosecution. See Memorandum for the United States Concerning the Vice President's Claim of Constitutional Immunity (filed Oct. 5, 1973), In re Proceedings of the Grand Jury Impaneled December 5, 1972: Application of Spiro T. Agnew, Vice President of the United States (D. Md. 1973) (No. 73-965) ("SG Brief"). In so arguing, however, Solicitor General Bork was careful to explain that the President, unlike the Vice President, could not constitutionally be subject to such criminal process while in office.

In this memorandum, we conclude that the determinations made by the Department in 1973, both in the OLC memorandum and in the Solicitor General's brief, remain sound and that subsequent developments in the law validate both the analytical framework applied and the conclusions reached at that time."

http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/sitting_president.htm
434 posted on 10/24/2005 9:26:19 PM PDT by blogblogginaway (..)
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To: MJY1288

At least you are consistently wrong.


435 posted on 10/24/2005 9:26:36 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: Suzy Quzy
'Quinn writes again to Clinton. With a new angle.

January 5, 2001

... On a personal note, I believe in this case with all my heart. When first approached about getting involved, I was highly skeptical. But, I studied the facts and the law carefully and became convinced of both Marc's innocence and the outrageously prejudicial and unfair treatment of him by the then-new U.S. Attorney in New York, Mr. Giuliani .."

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Anatomy of a Pardon

436 posted on 10/24/2005 9:27:11 PM PDT by STARWISE (The liberals and terrorists belong to the same club: THE HATE AND DESTROY AMERICA CLUB.)
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To: blogblogginaway

Facts, schmacts.


437 posted on 10/24/2005 9:27:50 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: old and tired
While working in the government, he needs to maintain his ties in the private sector.

Right, with a pardoned,shady criminal like Rich. Libby displayed no principles and respect for his current employer, the VP. Even Podesta advised Clinton not to pardon Rich.

For all Libby knew, he was going to be working for Rich again in another 4 years if Bush weren't reelected.

That says it all. Case closed.

438 posted on 10/24/2005 9:27:59 PM PDT by kabar
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To: nj26

SPECULATION, SPECULATION, hypothesizing...
Leaks, this is worst that the leaks in the roofs brought on by Wilma.
I am not really worried. Why hypothesize?


439 posted on 10/24/2005 9:28:21 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: STARWISE

Forgot Pincus.

(Note our troll didn't remember him either.)

Tho, I could argue that Pincus is a columnist. It's just they call some of his columns news.


440 posted on 10/24/2005 9:28:55 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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