Posted on 10/24/2005 6:28:34 PM PDT by nj26
I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, first learned about the C.I.A. officer at the heart of the leak investigation in a conversation with Mr. Cheney weeks before her identity became public in 2003, lawyers involved in the case said Monday.
Notes of the previously undisclosed conversation between Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney on June 12, 2003, appear to differ from Mr. Libby’s testimony to a federal grand jury that he initially learned about the C.I.A. officer, Valerie Wilson, from journalists, the lawyers said.
The notes, taken by Mr. Libby during the conversation, for the first time place Mr. Cheney in the middle of an effort by the White House to learn about Ms. Wilson’s husband, Joseph C. Wilson IV, who was questioning the administration’s handling of intelligence about Iraq’s nuclear program to justify the war.
Lawyers said the notes show that Mr. Cheney knew that Ms. Wilson worked at the C.I.A. more than a month before her identity was made public and her undercover status was disclosed in a syndicated column by Robert D. Novak on July 14, 2003.
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No kidding! Tenant wants to know who sent that loser Wilson, and has conversation with Cheney who talks to Libby. Dang!! If that is somehow breaking the law we are all in big trouble!! Talking to an employee about another, especially those already cleared in security matters. That's what eveyone is all atwitter about??
Good grief I just saw Joe Scarborough saying the Whitehouse is about to blow up into chaos. Over something the TIMES says.
Oh my!!
Something is very very wrong with this whole picture!!
Look! A shiny monkey!
So easily distracted! ROFLMAO!
"get ready for a rough week."
Why? I wasn't in the meeting with Cheney!!
The notes themselves are no big deal if they say Wilson went to Niger and his wife works at the CIA. Now if they say something like "Wilson discovered our forgeries, we need to out his undercover wife and put her life in jeopardy", then that would be more of a problem.
If they are Libby's notes, I am surprised he did not know about them when he testified since he and his attorney have a copy of everything turned over. If Libby forgot about the meeting, big deal. Fitz has to prove that Libby lied about it. And if he can prove it then Libby has a problem (as well he should).
Again, this story show no evidence of an underlying crime (Intel Identity protection act or Espionage). If Fitz wants to get Libby on a perjury charge and feels he has the evidence to prove it, then go for it. Libby can cop a plea or fight it in court. Either way, Bush will pardon him by Jan 2009.
Wilson started all of this when he acted as the source for a Kristof article in May 2003 (and then Pincus in June 2003). Wilson is a proven liar. Do I approve of anyone lying in front of the GJ? No. Do I think Wilson is the one that should be indicted more than anyone else? Yes.
Side note: this story does not even touch Rove. Any thing less than an indictment against Rove and the lefties will go crazy.
What are you talking about? Cheney can say anything about anybody he wants to to Libby. What Libby tells someone from the press is another story.
yong = young
Sorry, everyone... :)
My husband came down and I was trying to explain this whole mess.
Seriously, does anyone outside of Washington care about this? I have a gut feeling that the answer is NO.
And I was completely enraged when no one seemed to care about the Clinton illegalities, etc. When things are complicated, people lose interest.
It's a shame, but it is reality.
I remember hearing he testified last year but I can't say it for fact. Maybe someone else can verify?
I don't believe so
Doesn't matter to Fineman
Since you seem to be so in the dark on the Valerie Plame case, and her status in the CIA, I am more than happy to enlighten you, friend.
Valerie Plame was NOT a desk jockey.
She was a covert CIA operative with unofficial cover.
Do you know what that means?
It means that she were to go overseas somewhere, as part of her job, and she got kidnapped or taken hostage, the United States would not provide any official help to rescue her.
There are some CIA operatives who actually have "cover," so if they were to go overseas and get kidnapped, the U.S. would provide resources to help rescue them.
Because of Valerie Plame's status as someone with unofficial cover, the United States would not have validated her identity and tried to rescue her.
She put her life on the line for her country, to work on issues of weapons of mass destruction, and her government repaid her by outing her for purely political reasons.
Did he say that Cheney is going to be indicted?! Did he really go that far on the deep end?!
Cheney had every reason. Recall that, while Wilson was spreading his lies anonymously, one of them was that the Vice President is who sent him to Niger and the Vice President was who got his report upon his return.
You bet Cheney wanted to know a.) who this jerk was and b.), even more important, who it was that really sent him to Niger.
"It's all about Iraq!!!"
you focus too much on the facts, and not enough on the spin.
what this article tells me, is that if Libby is indicted (as bogus as that will be, we agree on that, but let's assume it happens) - the left will be saying "he lied/obstructed to protect Cheney". yes, I know its not factual. since when did that matter, I'm talking spin here.
Gimme a break you hack troll
GMAFB!
You're landed in the wrong place, troll.
The fact is that she was outted by Alrich Ames years ago so she was never going to be sent "out of the country."
Then maybe she shouldn't have told EVERYONE she knew that she worked at the CIA.
TROLL
Sounds plausible. Like Bennet, I mean.
We need a SP to investigate the SP regarding the leaks from the proceedings in the Leak Case. And this is the people's money they are using.
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