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To: b_sharp
Wow! I went to bed too early last night, that's for sure!

OK, but I'm up early!

TM: "Show me one example of an intelligent being that isn't born from another intelligent being.
b_sharp: That's an interesting question.
If I were a creationist I would say 'God' fits that bill.
Since I'm not a creationist, I would have to agree with you that God was created by man.

The problem as posed? I would agree with you.
The observation that is being challenged though is the something from nothing premise of material science.

ID observes that nature yields no evidence of intelligence arriving from non intelligence.

76 posted on 10/25/2005 2:41:54 AM PDT by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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To: ThirstyMan
ID observes that nature yields no evidence of intelligence arriving from non intelligence.

ID observes that man evolved over millions of years from simple organisms AND that there is no evidence of intervention by God in man's evolution AND therefore, we should teach our children that God may be dead.

See Mr. Behe's sworn testimony.

101 posted on 10/25/2005 6:25:57 PM PDT by WildTurkey (True Creationism makes intelligent design actually seem intelligent)
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To: ThirstyMan
ID observes that nature yields no evidence of intelligence arriving from non intelligence.

No. ID says that man has evolved WITHOUT the assistance of an ID and that we should teach the children that God may be dead.

179 posted on 10/27/2005 6:08:17 PM PDT by WildTurkey (True Creationism makes intelligent design actually seem intelligent)
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To: ThirstyMan

Item

Evolution

ID

Earth is billions of years old

Yes

Yes

Man evolved from simple organisms

Yes

Yes

God had no influence in evolution

Unknown

Yes

Teach children God may be dead

No

Yes


180 posted on 10/27/2005 6:11:50 PM PDT by WildTurkey (True Creationism makes intelligent design actually seem intelligent)
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