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Dow Closes Up 170 on Fed Chief Appointment
AP via Yahoo ^ | 10/24/05 | Christopher Wang

Posted on 10/24/2005 2:27:46 PM PDT by advance_copy

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To: Snardius
And my personal favorite, "Emotion is a contrarian indicator."

Added to my list.

"It's not how much you make it's how much you keep." Martin Zweig.

And: "Buy until you puke or puke until you buy. -or- Sell until you puke or puke until you sell."

81 posted on 10/24/2005 7:20:21 PM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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To: Woodman
The only way to make money in trading FX is to be a bank or a lucky gambler.

Well I am neither. I am a speculator who knows that the market is like a shark and its prey, both have to move to live. I'll move AFTER the market starts to move. I have made good money in the FOREX and I expect I'll continue to do so as long as I follow the major trend.

82 posted on 10/24/2005 7:23:05 PM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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To: Snardius

Don't forget one of Will Rogers' most famous quotes: "If you want to make money in the stock market, take some money out of the bank and buy some stocks. And if they don't go up, don't buy them. There is a hell of a lot of truth to that even though he was obviously joking. If they start to go up THEN you buy them.


83 posted on 10/24/2005 7:25:22 PM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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To: Willie Green
You're soft in the head if you think we'll ever see $1.65/gallon again.

What a misinformed and backwards statement. I have $1,000 that says the price of oil will be cheaper in the future than it is now. Any takers?

Some of you know what I'm talking about and some of you don't. The man who made that bet in the '70's won it. He'll always win it.

Never mind that the current price makes some extraction methods feasible. Never mind that the current price makes alternative energy feasible. Never mind that the creative juices of the free market will never let the price of any commodity go to the moon and stay there.

Any commodity in a free market is subject to the forces of ideas, intelligence and technology. Willie, you would bet against all of those, denying the history of capitalism. Shoot yourself in the foot Willie. If you miss it's because that is your destiny. You missed.

84 posted on 10/24/2005 8:15:10 PM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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To: Miss Marple

"I mean, I can't possibly decide what to think until the "conservitive intelligentsia" send me my cues."

For some lame brain previews, just read the garbage posted by the GW bashers on Free Republic about this man.


85 posted on 10/24/2005 11:37:09 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: groanup
Never mind that the current price makes some extraction methods feasible. Never mind that the current price makes alternative energy feasible. Never mind that the creative juices of the free market will never let the price of any commodity go to the moon and stay there.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

~ The Wizard of Oz

Same old crap...
The Fed cranks up the printing presses to churn out more worthless paper,
allowing you to claim that $25/gallon gas is "cheaper" when adjusted for inflation.

Where have we heard this before?

86 posted on 10/25/2005 6:43:36 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Where have we heard this before?

Peering through the fog of my memory I remember something mentioned about this in Econ 101, or was it Real Life 302...:)

The fact of the matter is that if the price of a commodity reaches the point where it is prohibitive for the masses to consume the commodity, they will reduce their consumption, thereby reducing demand, thereby reducing the price of the commodity.

At the same time, the high price of the commodity encourages speculators to find more of it to sell at the high price. Greater supply + Lower Demand = Lower Price.

Simulaneously, the prohibitively high price of the commodity encourages the entrepreneur to invent/develop an alternative to the high priced commodity which performs the same function but at a lower price shifting demand to the alternative commodity. Lower Demand = Lower Price.

These forces are currently at work on the price of crude oil/gasoline. IF the price stays up long enough for speculators to find more supply and/or entrepreneurs to successfully develop alternatives to gasoline, the price of crude oil and gas could plummet.

On the other hand...I could be wrong.

87 posted on 10/25/2005 8:42:20 AM PDT by Snardius
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To: Snardius
These forces are currently at work on the price of crude oil/gasoline. IF the price stays up long enough for speculators to find more supply and/or entrepreneurs to successfully develop alternatives to gasoline, the price of crude oil and gas could plummet.

Which explains why OPEC and the Oil Industry act in unison as a

cartel: A formal agreement between businesses in the same industry, usually on an international scale, to get market control, raise the market price, and otherwise act like a monopoly. A cartel tends to be unstable because the artificially high prices it sets gives each member of the cartel an incentive to "cheat" with a slightly lower price. When only one member of the cartel lowers the price, it can make oodles of profit by taking customers away from the other members. If they all cheat, the cartel falls apart. While cartels damage efficiency, they're power is often short-lived because of this cheating. Like collusion and other techniques of market control, cartels are illegal in the United States.

Since cartels are illegal within the US, the industry naturally prefers to import oil as "free trade" rather than exand utilization of our own resources.

88 posted on 10/25/2005 10:34:01 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: You Dirty Rats
You actually thought I was series?
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Yes.....alot of libs snipe on this site.Also there are some anti big business conservatives who hate oil companies and believe the conspiracy theory of price gouging.I apologize, but please label your sarcastic posts in the future. Thanks
89 posted on 10/25/2005 3:34:34 PM PDT by photodawg
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