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To: Grampa Dave
We have the same problem in the ELCA. Nobody wants to be accused of being judgmental. Most see the danger but do nothing, "hoping things will get better".

Well, I have a 13-year old son and I am not going to do that. I made a stand and made a move, to the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, where the "progressives" feel oppressed.

"It's a good thing!"

55 posted on 10/24/2005 8:27:50 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (9/11 - "WE WILL NEVER FORGET!")
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To: Redleg Duke

"We have the same problem in the ELCA. Nobody wants to be accused of being judgmental. Most see the danger but do nothing, "hoping things will get better".

"Well, I have a 13-year old son and I am not going to do that. I made a stand and made a move, to the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, where the "progressives" feel oppressed."

"It's a good thing!"

It is a good thing, and I hope that we have a split in the E church. Let the newcomers, who have probably done nothing of real value leave and go to the rental halls and shopping centers. Leave the Judgemental Conservatives alone in our churches we have built and maintained over the decades.

A lot of people like me, who have stopped going to the mens's groups and bible study groups will return to those groups. It gets very old hearing the lefties run down our president, own country and our political party. Then, we try to defend what we believe, we are screamed at and called judgemental.

In a lot of E churches, a hard left core group of screamers and left agenda pushers in the past decade have seemed to take over the Saturday Morning Men's groups, many of the women's groups and lot of the so called bible study groups.


61 posted on 10/24/2005 1:19:38 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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