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To: Wunpac
I don’t see where anyone here is giving a pass to Nazis. The two main points I see are: Freedom of Speech and the MSM double-standard.

Two points. First, I don't see anyone on this thread attempting to stifle anyone's free speech rights. Two, the MSM double-standard is just par for the course for those liars. So who should be surprised by it?

It seems to be the consensus that these girls are nut-job extremists, but it is the essence of conservatism to allow free speech… however much we disagree with it. If we stifle it, we become what we despise.

It's "consensus" that they are considered "nut jobs" on this thread, right? You sure about that? Are you 100% sure?

It is extremely frustrating to see the rappers and black leadership spew forth such hateful venom as these girls, but are winked at by the media.

And that's the heart of the matter. This particular thing would not be discussed, save for the fact that someone posted it as subject matter. And as subject matter, how quickly it changed to where rap was the real subject.

Now let's look at something you said more closely. You said, "It is extremely frustrating to see the rappers and black leadership spew..."

That should result in a run-time error for those of us on the Right. Why do we have those among us who insist on giving these morons any legitimacy whatsoever? Jesse, Al, and their ilk should be thought of as nothing more than spokesmen for their own views. They are not elected.

For those who may be in the CBC, they should be considered spokespersons for their constituents only. Even though I'm a black man, none of these idiots speak for me at all.

As far as "consensus" is concerned, I ask you again, are you sure?


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79 posted on 10/23/2005 1:31:44 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: rdb3
Why, in the face of white supremecism, do posters offer the pathetic defense of "But rap is racist too....."?

What rappers do is entirely irrelevant. This thread is about a White Supremecist band - which is one of the best ways these groups recruit young, disaffected young people.

This thread, and the other like it, gives me pause to wonder if the Right has only a thin veneer hiding the racist elements in our midst. Ever since Katrina, I have become more and more convinced that too many Conservative Republicans are indeed racists.

87 posted on 10/23/2005 1:53:21 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: rdb3; Republicanus_Tyrannus

It's "consensus" that they are considered "nut jobs" on this thread, right? You sure about that? Are you 100% sure?
Consensus as in “general agreement or accord”? Yes, I’d say there is a consensus. Am I 100% sure about the consensus? No, it is just my impression from the general feel of the threads that I read. Perhaps you can develop an algorithm to determine, with 100% accuracy, the hearts and minds of others? Or were you just being sarcastic?
Now let's look at something you said more closely. You said, "It is extremely frustrating to see the rappers and black leadership spew..."
That should result in a run-time error for those of us on the Right. Why do we have those among us who insist on giving these morons any legitimacy whatsoever? Jesse, Al, and their ilk should be thought of as nothing more than spokesmen for their own views. They are not elected.
Again, my comments were in the context of the MSM. I agree, and have made the same argument, that these clowns have no legitimacy. However, it the minds of the media and lefties, they have legitimacy. I should have said something like, “So-called leadership”. For that I apologize. I had forgotten how legalistic and nit-picky these debates can become.

There is good news, however. We now know who the idiots are. We can immediately discount their opinions as the rantings of disgruntled racists. There is something to be said for litmus tests.
Spoken like a true democrat. Label and dismiss anyone who doesn’t agree with you. Again, if a conservative starts behaving like the liberals that we all despise, what makes him/her any better?


It is a sad commentary that one cannot even point out the ridiculous and unfair race-baiting of the MSM without being labeled as the “rantings of disgruntled racists”.

For the record, I condemn these girls’ activities. They are indeed anti-American. Also, anyone who labels a person due to their race is, IMHO, a moron.


147 posted on 10/23/2005 6:21:24 PM PDT by Wunpac
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