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Young Singers Spread Racist Hate (Racist BARF alert)
ABC News.com ^ | 10-20-05 | ABC News

Posted on 10/23/2005 9:59:10 AM PDT by Danae

Duo Considered the Olsen Twins of the White Nationalist Movement

Oct. 20, 2005 — Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.

They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.

Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.

"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."

Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."

April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs — specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.

"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand."

Teaching Hate

Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."

"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught.

On that point, April Gaede and Ted Shaw apparently agree.

"Well, all children pretty much espouse their parents' attitudes," she said. "We're white nationalists and of course that's a part of our life and I'm going to share that part of my life with my children."

Since they began singing, the girls have become such a force in the white nationalist movement, that David Duke — the former presidential candidate, one-time Ku-Klux-Klan grand wizard and outspoken white supremacist — uses the twins to draw a crowd.

Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause.

"Eleven and 12 years old," he said, "I think that's the perfect age to start grooming kids and instill in them a strong racial identity."

Gliebe, who targets young, mainstream white rockers at music festivals like this past summer's "Ozzfest," says he uses music to get his message out.

But with names like Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans, these tunes are far more extreme than the ones sung by Lamb and Lynx.

"We give them a CD, we give them something as simple as a stick, they can go to our Web site and see other music and download some of our music," said Gliebe. "To me, that's the best propaganda tool for our youth."

A Taste for Hate

Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist.

One of Sugg's songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: "Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain't white you'll be dead."

"I'd like to compare it to gangsta rap," explained Sugg, "where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping whores."

Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that "it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s."

Perhaps not, but Shaw says it's the ideas in the music that are dangerous.

"When you talk about people being dead if they're not white," said Shaw, "I don't think there is much question that that is hateful."

A Place to Call Home

Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message.

Like many children across the country, Lamb and Lynx decided to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina — the white ones.

The girls' donations were handed out by a White Nationalist organization who also left a pamphlet promoting their group and beliefs — some of the intended recipients were more than a little displeased.

After a day of trying, the supplies ended up with few takers, dumped at a local shop that sells Confederate memorabilia.

Last month, the girls were scheduled to perform at the local county fair in their hometown. But when some people in the community protested, Prussian Blue was removed from the line-up.

But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest.


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KEYWORDS: hitlerwouldbeproud; ignorant; music; neonazi; notrap; notyournorthwest; racist; whitenationalists
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To: rdb3

I don't recall black racists being defended on FR, but I guess the very fact of being black makes one a Farrakhan follower according the the views of many on FR.


241 posted on 10/25/2005 12:09:43 PM PDT by Shade2
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To: Wunpac
Why do we have those among us who insist on giving these morons any legitimacy whatsoever?

They are kids. They are not making millions. Their influence is minor compared to the black rappers. They don't have a criminal record like a lot of black artists. And I'm not white.

242 posted on 10/25/2005 12:29:26 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Skooz
You know, as much as I despise the current NAACP, comparing them to neo-nazis is quite a reach. I place the NAACP on the level of the ACLU. Both are disgusting, but they don't promote exterminating people or shipping millions to a foreign land. I can better understand one doing so with the Nation of Islam and definitely the New Black Panthers.

But as far as the MSM goes, are you complaining about this double standard? After all, foolishness by blacks is promoted by the mostly white liberal press, while foolishness by whites is immediately jumped on and suppressed. They attempt to normalize bad behavior by blacks while attempting to discourage bad behavior by whites. That seems more racist against blacks.

On the other hand, blacks who do great things business wise or intellectually get practically no media coverage unless they are radical, race card playing leftists, while whites who do the same get loads of it. You see white conservatives on television everyday while it takes appointment to the highest levels of government for black conservatives to get hardly any airtime. Prominent universities commonly put radical black nut jobs in positions. Why is that?

So the bottom line is that the liberal controlled media as well as academia seeks to normalize ridiculous behavior by blacks and seek to discourage such behavior by whites. I don't see why whites get so personally offended by this. Whites should personally appreciate it unless they unselfishly take offense to black people being made fools of, which I doubt is the case here.
243 posted on 10/25/2005 12:29:58 PM PDT by Shade2
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To: staytrue
They don't have a criminal record like a lot of black artists

Wow, you just realy generalized black artists. I'm picturing Stevie Wonder in handcuffs.

244 posted on 10/25/2005 12:33:50 PM PDT by Shade2
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To: Shade2

I should have said black rappers instead of black artists.


245 posted on 10/25/2005 12:35:53 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Shade2

Actually, it's far simpler than all that.

According to the MSM:
Black racism = good, noble.
White racism = bad, evil.

Instead of just reporting ALL racism with the damnation it deserves.


246 posted on 10/25/2005 12:36:17 PM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Skooz

And you did not read mine. We're even.


247 posted on 10/25/2005 12:40:53 PM PDT by Romish_Papist (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.)
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To: staytrue

Ok.


248 posted on 10/25/2005 12:44:46 PM PDT by Shade2
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To: Romish_Papist

I read every word of yours.

But, the fact that you still think I am defending the girls shows you chose not to read mine, because no one could possibly get that impression from my posts.


249 posted on 10/25/2005 12:49:15 PM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Skooz

Right. And who suffers the most from this? If a mother teaches a child to be racist while another mother teaches a child not to be racist, which child is more of a victim of poor parenting? Some here give the impression that they feel that life is unfair because they can't be racist like those lucky black people.

To me, whites should feel fortunate that such attitudes are no longer acceptable and should pitty blacks who are still being mentally conditioned by racist liberals to think that whites are evil and out to get them. But it seems sometimes that many white conservatives have racist views and are pissed that if they express them, they will be shunned. Is this the case?

Black people look oddly at people referring to organizations such as the NAACP as racist because to them, what the NAACP expresses is normal and acceptable by mainstream America, including whites. If there was no double standard and blacks were held equally accountable for certain words as whites are now, such words would end. You have to understand that just like welfare, affirmative action, lowered standards, etc., this is just another example of white liberals giving poison to blacks in the form of gifts in order to keep us weak and clinging to them for help. The weaker we get, the more we cling and we are too weak and to far gone to even be able to think enough to understand what is going on. Booker T. Washington understood this. Frederick Douglas understood this. But back then, we were strong.


250 posted on 10/25/2005 1:03:38 PM PDT by Shade2
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To: Skooz

First bub, I have read yours. Second, my replies were to expatguy who "sees nothing wrong with their message" or whatever it was he said so unless you're expatguy, why did you feel the need to interject?


251 posted on 10/25/2005 1:12:48 PM PDT by Romish_Papist (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.)
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To: Shade2
Some here give the impression that they feel that life is unfair because they can't be racist like those lucky black people.

I can't imagine that is the case with anyone here. I think that it is obvious that the MSM would have ignored these two girls if they were black and were spewing hate toward whites. To point that out in no way makes one a closet racist.

But it seems sometimes that many white conservatives have racist views and are pissed that if they express them, they will be shunned. Is this the case?

I hope not. But if someone doesn't express his views, for whatever reason, it is impossible to know what is in someone's heart. My opinion is that racism has no place in conservatism. Period. Conservatives should judge everyone as an individual and accept every individual as a unique person, and not as the extension of some racial mob.

Group status is the realm of liberals, not conservatives.

You have to understand that just like welfare, affirmative action, lowered standards, etc., this is just another example of white liberals giving poison to blacks in the form of gifts in order to keep us weak and clinging to them for help. The weaker we get, the more we cling and we are too weak and to far gone to even be able to think enough to understand what is going on.

And the Democrat plan is working to perfection.

Booker T. Washington understood this. Frederick Douglas understood this.

Yes, but Booker T. Washington and Frederick Douglass were extraordinarily brilliant men.

252 posted on 10/25/2005 1:24:26 PM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Romish_Papist
First bub, I have read yours.

Then, bub, your reply to me makes no sense. I called them "hateful, goosestepping little demonoids," and you accused me of defending them. Bizarre.

Second, my replies were to expatguy who "sees nothing wrong with their message" or whatever it was he said

expatguy did not say that he saw nothing wrong with their message. I guess not reading posts before you respond to them is a habit huh, bub?

so unless you're expatguy, why did you feel the need to interject?

This is an open forum. If you don't want others to respond to your posts, use Freepmail. Bub.

253 posted on 10/25/2005 1:31:44 PM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Skooz

Why don't you go back and look. He did indeed say he saw nothing wrong with them. For the rest, I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from posting to me further on this thread. I've said my part and you've dismissed it. So be it. Done.


254 posted on 10/25/2005 1:41:22 PM PDT by Romish_Papist (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.)
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To: Romish_Papist

I love you, too.


255 posted on 10/25/2005 1:43:14 PM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Danae

I hate to say this because I loath Gov. intervention but, if there was ever a reason for CPS to remove children from a home, this is it!


256 posted on 10/25/2005 1:46:33 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Shade2
So the bottom line is that the liberal controlled media as well as academia seeks to normalize ridiculous behavior by blacks and seek to discourage such behavior by whites. I don't see why whites get so personally offended by this. Whites should personally appreciate it unless they unselfishly take offense to black people being made fools of, which I doubt is the case here.

Preach, preacher!


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.

257 posted on 10/25/2005 4:35:03 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: Shade2
Black people look oddly at people referring to organizations such as the NAACP as racist because to them, what the NAACP expresses is normal and acceptable by mainstream America, including whites. If there was no double standard and blacks were held equally accountable for certain words as whites are now, such words would end. You have to understand that just like welfare, affirmative action, lowered standards, etc., this is just another example of white liberals giving poison to blacks in the form of gifts in order to keep us weak and clinging to them for help. The weaker we get, the more we cling and we are too weak and to far gone to even be able to think enough to understand what is going on. Booker T. Washington understood this. Frederick Douglas understood this. But back then, we were strong.

Now hear this! Your handle, to me at least, is no longer Shade2.

Nope. From here on out, I'm calling you "Butter" because you are on a roll!


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.

258 posted on 10/25/2005 4:40:45 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: IronJack; Danae
I didn't see any "hatred" in the girls' lyrics.

No hatred in their lyrics? Well, the following song Sacrifice is one of their gems, and it is a song about the 'great' Rudolph Hess, no.3 man in Hitler's Germany (after Hitler and Goring); Robert (Bob) Mathews, founder of the Aryan Nation; Dr Pierce, author of the turner diaries; and Ian Stuart, some Euro-weenie who started a Skinhead rock band in Europe.

Oh, and by the way, the girl'scall themselves Prussian Blue. Guess where that is from .....the name for the gas chambers in the holocaust where Jews met their end through Zyklon-B.

But hey, no hate. Unless you are a Jew (or anything else the parents of these girls consider 'inferior' ...or to use their own words 'mud')

The stuff gansta rappers say is horrid, but saying there was no hate in what these girls have to say (actually what their parents told the girls to say) is not correct. Here is one of their songs:

Sacrifice

He fought so strong for our race. We're finally back in our place. It took his life, my dear son, and now it's over the war is won. Our Race was saved because the lives that were sacrificed: those men that died...

Sacrifice , they gave their lives. All those men who have died. Sacrifice, they gave their lives, all those men who have died.

Warrior poet, I sing his songs. Ian Stuart, with his voice so strong. Remember his words, as we sing along.

Rudolph Hess, man of Peace. He wouldn't give up and he wouldn't cease, to give his loyalty to our Cause. Remember him and give a pause.

Robert Matthews knew the Truth. He knew what he had to do. He set an example with Courage so bold. We'll never let that fire grow cold.

Dr Pierce, a man so wise, helped so many of us open our eyes, and see the future for what it could be: a future for our Race’s eternity.

259 posted on 10/26/2005 1:41:08 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Shade2

You should run for office.


260 posted on 10/26/2005 5:49:43 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.)
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