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Schumer: Miers lacks votes to be confirmed [Howard Dean, said it was his guess that Miers would not.
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Posted on 10/23/2005 8:40:50 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: altura

I agree completely! The heat had been turned up before I checked the date.


181 posted on 10/23/2005 7:11:03 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ("The Constitution: It ain't long. It ain't complicated and only idiot lawyers can make it so." A D)
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To: counterpunch

If you're depending on university profs to shape the kind of legal minds you claim to want, you will be very disappointed.


182 posted on 10/23/2005 7:28:14 PM PDT by altura (T.G.I.B.)
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To: altura

Robert Bork did a pretty good job I think.


183 posted on 10/23/2005 7:30:03 PM PDT by counterpunch (SCOTUS interruptus - withdraw Miers now)
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To: altura

John Eastman of Chapman University Law is doing a good job, too.


184 posted on 10/23/2005 7:32:19 PM PDT by counterpunch (SCOTUS interruptus - withdraw Miers now)
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To: counterpunch

Is he on the court or something?


185 posted on 10/23/2005 8:25:22 PM PDT by altura (T.G.I.B.)
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To: altura

No, he was very influential as a professor of law at Yale.
I thought that was what we were talking about, "university profs to shape ... legal minds."

However, he did also serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. circuit and also argued 41 cases before the U.S. Supreme Court.


186 posted on 10/23/2005 9:09:57 PM PDT by counterpunch (SCOTUS interruptus - withdraw Miers before she blows it)
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To: CalRepublican
"They will oppose her because we on the right who care about getting this right have raised such a ruckus about her lack of qualifications. We have made it impossible for them to ignore."

I hope you're right.

187 posted on 10/23/2005 11:22:39 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (It's the Supreme Court, stupid!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
have probably given us a more Liberal nominee

This is the part of your argument I don't get. The Constitution gives the president the power to nominate judges. No one else can nominate a judge. So, if you trust GWB to nominate conservatives--if his record speaks for itself in that regard--then what is there to worry about? The Senate can cry all they like, but all they will get are conservative nominees, right? Why would GWB nominate a liberal? You think he'd do that?

188 posted on 10/24/2005 4:19:56 AM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: Brilliant

I respectfully disagree. I believe when Miers asks Bush to withdraw her name (this week) from consideration Bush will quickly nominate a well known staunch conservative in order to appease/fire up his base. The President needs to reach out to conservatives, plus he will need some sort of diversion if or when Rove and/or Libby are indicted.


189 posted on 10/24/2005 4:31:54 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: moose2004

But the question is whether they will be approved. I doubt it.


190 posted on 10/24/2005 6:09:40 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: pepperhead; johnwayne; CalRepublican; SmoothTalker
Win, lose or draw, Mier's confirmation hearing should be a TV spectacle to remember, or at least hard to forget.
191 posted on 10/24/2005 6:38:58 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (How the hell could Bush have passed up a Ronnie Earle to appoint a Harriet Miers to the Court?)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

I know i'll be glued to my radio.


192 posted on 10/24/2005 6:39:48 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

As will I.


193 posted on 10/24/2005 6:41:50 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (How the hell could Bush have passed up a Ronnie Earle to appoint a Harriet Miers to the Court?)
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To: Huck
So, if you trust GWB to nominate conservatives--if his record speaks for itself in that regard--then what is there to worry about?

I'm not worried at all. I look at this whole process from the standpoint of the Constitution. It's the Coulterbots that want to undermine the whole process that gets me.

194 posted on 10/24/2005 7:35:31 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I'm not worried at all.

Forgive me for keeping after this point, but I still don't get why you think we will get a "more liberal nominee." The only one who can nominate judges is the president. Why do you think he is going to move to the left on judges? I don't get that at all. It makes even less sense given the recent pressure from the right. If the pressure were coming from the left, at least I could see a political reason for moving left. But why do you think the president will move left?

195 posted on 10/24/2005 8:28:47 AM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

ps- what's with "coulterbots?" Do you honestly think ppl are influenced that much by Ann Coulter? Do you think people are putting allegience to Coulter above their own beliefs/interests? I don't get that term.


196 posted on 10/24/2005 8:30:31 AM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: Brilliant

>>>"What'll happen is he's come back with a more conservative nominee, who will be defeated because the liberals think he's too conservative. Then he'll have no choice but to nominate a more liberal nominee."

Are you saying we should expect Bubba Clinton as a Supreme Court nominee, now that the Bushes are pals with the Clintons? Interesting possibility. He's from Yale, you know.

Bush needs to just fall back on the basic strategy for the candidate: a constitutional conservative + great qualifications. If he wants to pick a female, there were several under consideration. Otherwise, there are plenty of males.

The faster he drops Miers, the faster he can start mending the conservative vs. liberal split in the Republican party. Just because Miers is an evangelical Christian doesn't mean she's conservative... and so it appears.


197 posted on 10/24/2005 8:52:36 AM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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