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Mr. Stevens's Tirade
DC Compost ^ | Sunday, October 23, 2005; Page B06 | Unsigned

Posted on 10/23/2005 6:35:27 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

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To: thackney

I notice you are from Alaska. I can understand why you might feel defensive. Please see things from our perspective. Maybe Alaska's politicians should work more on privatizing and developing more of that land instead of bleeding the taxpayers down her in the mainland.


21 posted on 10/23/2005 9:35:47 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: .cnI redruM

Well, if Coburn was proposing an amendment aimed squarely at Alaska, that was foolish.


22 posted on 10/23/2005 9:40:18 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: manwiththehands
A state that size andd with that many natural resources can fend for itself.

You are ignorant and wrong. Alaska is an example of what is wrong with this country. All those resources, and most off-limits. Alaskan development is frozen, has been frozen since coal was discovered in the Copper Valley. Most of the land in Alaska has been placed off-limits to development: it's all a giant national park and recreation area thanks to Carter. Big Oil gets the Prudhoe Bay oil, but the big corporations want the rest of the resources frozen so they can develop their own property. Learn something.

23 posted on 10/23/2005 9:47:12 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale

#21


24 posted on 10/23/2005 9:49:48 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: mewzilla

Exactly, we need a Reagan, someone that isn't afraid of the media and talks over the left rather than trying to win them over. We need a leader that will respond to them like the intellectual ants and perverts they are and even set their ant hills on fire when necessary. The PC crap relativistic neo-feminine approach to government has to be discarded, it is destorying this country and making us weak and spoiled. We don't need more people who care, we need people who will tear down the bureaucratic structure and gut the fat and the incompetence out and know where their caring and our wallets end.


25 posted on 10/23/2005 9:52:52 AM PDT by Ma3lst0rm (If the devil is in the details, bureaucrats and lawyers are his emissaries.)
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To: manwiththehands

What do you think Stevens, Murkowski, and Young are doing? It is not easy to fight the big, modern corporation. Ask Montana. It's not the politicians, the politicians are puppets. Alaska is frozen because the true power, the Carnegies, etc., have valuable properties elsewhere and don't want the competition. Alaska itself cannot do what the entire Federal Gummint cannot do. Only oil is being developed, and that only because the corporations want it done.


26 posted on 10/23/2005 10:03:02 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale
"What do you think Stevens, Murkowski, and Young are doing?"

Spending a boatload of our money! All I hear about is the money and the bridge ... don't hear much about Alaska's politicians fighting corporations. Come to think of it, I haven't heard this before you and thackney mentioned it. Maybe that's why the government isn't that concerned with deficits and debt. If we get too far behind and in the red the Feds can always start selling all the land they own. Just a thought ...

27 posted on 10/23/2005 10:43:36 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: manwiththehands

The corporations the Gummint allowed to be created are much more important to the country than is the Gummint. The Gummint does the bidding of the corporations. That is the real power. But, if we do something to take control of the corporations we ought to be real careful because the American style of corporations is the engine of America. The engine is not broke, but it is sputtering. We don't want to do something that would leave the economy sitting up on blocks in the front yard.


28 posted on 10/23/2005 10:50:01 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale

Good points. I agree with everything you said. Maybe the corporations can build "bridges to nowhere". :)


29 posted on 10/23/2005 11:48:57 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: manwiththehands
Corporations don't usually do projects that lack immediate payback. The bridge will no doubt encourage growth of commerce and population in the region, so it will at least do that. But, there are other infrastructure projects that Alaska could use, and maybe use better and sooner. One thing about the pork projects is that they are often stand-alone projects that have no reference to any master development plan. An example right here in Fairbanks is the building of the $7 million passenger terminal for the Alaska Railroad. It is located in the middle of nowhere and will require bus and taxi service for access. This is in spite of plans to move the railroad altogether to the south side of town.

If they want to make a big difference, they ought to connect the Alaska Railroad to Canada. Price tag I don't know, but the Alaska Railroad is running in the black. They should augment that system.

30 posted on 10/23/2005 12:00:37 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: .cnI redruM

Stevens tried to out box Boxer for the dimmest bulb title.


31 posted on 10/23/2005 4:40:39 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: manwiththehands
I assume you don't mind the oil royalty payments and leases going down into the treasury. Nobody seems to consider those dollars during all the discussions. Those outside just want to keep us some great park and act surprised why we don't produce more revenue. $2.4 billion over 5 years would go into the treasury if they let us produce oil from ANWR's coastal plain.
32 posted on 10/23/2005 8:36:12 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: manwiththehands
I haven't heard this before you and thackney mentioned it.

You haven't heard two decades of news about trying to develop the Coastal Plain of ANWR?

33 posted on 10/23/2005 9:01:03 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: manwiththehands
A state that size andd with that many natural resources can fend for itself.

There are now 16 separate national wildlife refuges in Alaska with approximate 77 million acres. Can you imagine that much area closed to development? Why are you surprised at all that we are not productive?

34 posted on 10/23/2005 10:25:37 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: manwiththehands
Maybe you and the rest of these non-Alaskan geniuses could get a frikkin clue before you exhibit your absolute and invincible ignorance?

Maybe you could look a little deeper than the lamestream media's and the left's accounts of what is going on?

Maybe it pisses you off that Alaska is a State? (If so ph^ck you, btw.)

Your ignorance is embarrassing, Cheechako.
35 posted on 10/23/2005 11:01:57 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (Why would anybody believe the left or the lamestream media?)
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