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DREAM ON, DEMOCRATS
Sierra Times ^ | 10/21/2005 | Mark Outland

Posted on 10/23/2005 4:29:32 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

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To: zbigreddogz

"Reaganite"


No self-respecting Reaganite would ever support John McCain for the presidency - NEVER!

And I never said it would jump over to the D's - what I said was that he would SIDE WITH THEM if the right wave came along. Look how long he bashed Bush - and then he finally jumped onboard - because things were looking good.

Bill Kristol would stab anybody in the back given the right opportunity. I've watched him do it so I'm not making this up.


61 posted on 10/23/2005 3:46:15 PM PDT by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: CyberAnt

Balderdash. Reagan himself campaigned for McCain for Senate, and McCain was a staunch Reagan ally in the House and the Senate.

You aren't one of those completely illogical McCain haters who seem to think he's essentially a D because he likes CFR and is friends with Kerry are you?


62 posted on 10/23/2005 4:06:10 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

I don't hate McCain .. I just don't trust him at all. His EGO is way to large for his intellect.


63 posted on 10/24/2005 2:10:40 AM PDT by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: Bushiefan

If she runs in 2008, and I am not convinced she will, she will not be able to hide as she did in NY.


64 posted on 10/24/2005 7:28:55 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: zbigreddogz

We can beat any DemocRAT if we ran someone like Governor Sanford from South Carolina!


65 posted on 10/24/2005 8:16:39 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Dial One.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Your dreaming.

Not that I oppose Sanford, but saying he's the strongest candidate we have in terms of electability just doesn't last outside of a conservatives wet dream.


66 posted on 10/24/2005 7:20:45 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: CyberAnt

I agree that McCain has a bit of an ego, and I think he's a bit of a loose cannon myself.

But even in 2000, there was a decent case to support him. He would have destroyed Gore, none of this close vote counting in Florida stuff, and while Bush has proved good on foreign policy, Kristol's position that Bush was talking too much like an isolationist during the campaign were at least somewhat justified. I think saying Kristol isn't a good conservative or Reaganite because of his support for McCain in 2000 (which I did not, at all) simply doesn't hold up to reason.

I actually think that conservatives should give McCain a second look in 2008. He's good on the WOT and Pork Barrell spending, which will be two huge issues in 2008, and he'd utterly destroy Hillary.

Like you, I'm not sure McCain has the temperment to be president, and some of his tendencies on a whole host of lesser issues concerns me. That said, they are just that, lesser issues. I will take anybody who will A. Win the WOT, and B. Will beat hillary. His C. qualification of pork barrell spending fighting is a big + that at least makes up for some of his more minor negatives.

I'm taking a wait-and-see approach for now. If someone else who has less of an ego proves they can go toe-to-toe with Hillary and come up on top, and convinces me they have the guts and determination to win the WOT, I will support them over McCain. But I'm not going to write him off either.


67 posted on 10/24/2005 7:28:53 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Bushiefan
I know the media will form a tight ring around her to protect one of their own. They will control the information about her, just like they protected John Kerry. Kerry's meeting with VVAW concerning assassinating certain U.S. Senators as detailed in FBI files never received full discloser.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=john+kerry+fbi+files+assassination+senators&spell=1
68 posted on 10/24/2005 8:19:29 PM PDT by avant_garde
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To: FerdieMurphy

"If the Republicans nominate Condi Rice, who by many accounts would eat Hillary alive in a head-to-head intellectual matchup...."

Yeah! That's what I'm talkin' about. RUN CONDI RUN!


69 posted on 10/24/2005 8:26:38 PM PDT by no dems (Go ASTROS!! For the first time ever, a World Series played in Texas,)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

"Where as everyone I know, detest Dems."

You must live in a Red State for sure.


70 posted on 10/24/2005 8:40:33 PM PDT by no dems (Go ASTROS!! For the first time ever, a World Series played in Texas,)
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To: Thebaddog

"The big question is going to be who runs against her for sure.....Allen looks interesting and I am curious about who else is a serious possibility."

I've said all along that Condi Rice is the only GOP candidate who can beat Hillary. Don't underestimate the Clintons.


71 posted on 10/24/2005 8:48:12 PM PDT by no dems (Go ASTROS!! For the first time ever, a World Series played in Texas,)
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To: no dems
RUN CONDI RUN!

Indeed! Run Condi. Run back to the think tank from whence you were spawned, but, like Frau Klinton, stay away from the oval office.

72 posted on 10/25/2005 6:21:27 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Dial One.)
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To: no dems
Red town
Red County
Red State

73 posted on 10/25/2005 6:14:59 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (South Sarasota County, FL)
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