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Water Mills: Tapping the Power of Rivers, Streams, and Tidal Basins
FineTuning.com ^ | October 11, 2005 | by Mark R. Whittington

Posted on 10/22/2005 11:09:01 AM PDT by aculeus

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1 posted on 10/22/2005 11:09:02 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus; Professional Engineer
Your thoughts?
2 posted on 10/22/2005 11:13:34 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: aculeus

Can anybody say, "Gulfstream?"


3 posted on 10/22/2005 11:14:46 AM PDT by stboz
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To: aculeus
The more things change, the more they stay the same ...

From the late 18th century through much of the 19th Century, Chesapeake Bay was lined by Tidemills. A gate would be closed during the tidal period to trap water in the millpond which, when released, turned the wheel of the mill and ground corn ...

Many of these mills were burned or destroyed by the Yankees ...

4 posted on 10/22/2005 11:17:18 AM PDT by caryatid (Moi j'vois pas quoi faire si tu reviens pas, be'be'... T'en revenir avec moi dans la Louisiane.)
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To: aculeus

self-ping


5 posted on 10/22/2005 11:17:35 AM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: aculeus
5 to 10 megawatts - peanuts - the smallest nuclear plant is 476 megawatts and the largest is 3825 megawatts using 3 reactors..
6 posted on 10/22/2005 11:20:10 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: aculeus
---Environmental groups such as Riverkeeper in New York dispute this---

--to be expected from the treehuggers--they're against anything that might work no matter how small or large--

7 posted on 10/22/2005 11:21:35 AM PDT by rellimpank (urbanites don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm:NRABenefactor)
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To: investigateworld

Cost per kilowatt is the whole ticket. It looks to be the same cost structure as windmills as far as equipment, but the question is the power density of these flows. Doable, yes. Cost?????


8 posted on 10/22/2005 11:23:23 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: aculeus
Environmental groups such as Riverkeeper in New York dispute this, claiming that scientific evidence is not yet available to support the conclusion of no environmental impact.

Have you EVER seen one of these enviro outfits SUPPORT any alternative power generation? Their approach is to fight for the life of even one minnow, wall-eyed toad, cross-eyed salamander ad nauseum. I suspect they'd prefer everyone (except them) to live a subsistence life in teepees "in tune with Mother Nature/Gaia", all the while enjoying six-figure salaries by the enviro elites, or preferably the taxpayer.

9 posted on 10/22/2005 11:26:10 AM PDT by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: aculeus

Something like the water wheels that have been used for hundreds of years?


10 posted on 10/22/2005 11:27:09 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: aculeus
Of course more research and development will be needed to establish the economic viability of the technology

I guess it's not beating fossil fuels or nuclear by a huge margin.

11 posted on 10/22/2005 11:28:03 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: aculeus

enviro-whackos can still find something to gripe about


12 posted on 10/22/2005 11:31:35 AM PDT by NoClones
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To: FastCoyote

Thanks, Got a nice fast moving stream in my back yard !!!
Going to watch this one close.


13 posted on 10/22/2005 11:32:02 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: aculeus
Sounds like they reinvented the waterwheel.


Proulx Mill & Power Station, Sherbrooke, Quebec

14 posted on 10/22/2005 11:33:40 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: glorgau

"5 to 10 megawatts - peanuts - the smallest nuclear plant is 476 megawatts and the largest is 3825 megawatts using 3 reactors.."

Yup, they're small fry, but 50 of them equals the smallest nuclear power plant, at lower cost and less chance for problems.

Small power plants used to be part of our electrical generation system. There used to be hundreds of them in New England, alone. They're gone now, but that doesn't mean they're gone forever. I see some new interest in these plants. It doesn't take much of a head to generate usable power.


15 posted on 10/22/2005 11:34:50 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: aculeus

Gee, I wonder if something like this could be used to make cornmeal??, or maybe even to provide power to knitting mills??


16 posted on 10/22/2005 11:35:55 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: investigateworld
I have developed a system for use on buildings three of more stories tall. It involves a pulley, a barrel of bricks, a fat man....

"Several hundred" 5 meter turbines...anchored in concrete on the bottom...5-10MW sounds very expensive, very economically inefficient, very hazardous/vulnerable to navigation, fishing, or whatever.
Also, if it is the East River, they better have screens to catch the bodies, so the chains and cement overshoes don't damage the equipment.

The best use sounded like recovering some of the enery of the California aquaducts' flow, to put back into the pumping stations.

Next, they'll be telling us we should put hydraulic rams everywhere, to pump water 'for free' to the top of a hill, so it can flow back down to a turbine at the bottom to generate 'free electricity'. With enough of these along our waterways....

JUST BUILD A FEW NEW NUKE PLANTS and be done with it.

17 posted on 10/22/2005 11:43:20 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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To: glorgau
5 to 10 megawatts - peanuts - the smallest nuclear plant is 476 megawatts and the largest is 3825 megawatts using 3 reactors..

MORE NUKES!!!!! Start messing in the water and the enviromentalists will make it very costly to produce energy.

18 posted on 10/22/2005 11:48:55 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Why not?
Even the French are getting 80% (- or+) of their electricity from nuke power.
19 posted on 10/22/2005 11:55:20 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: aculeus

BTTT


20 posted on 10/22/2005 11:58:50 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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