Fox News: Possible Miers Withdrawal? WH Reaching Out to Conservative Leaders for 'Plan B'

Fox & Friends Weekend

[Dave S]

Elitism has nothing to do with money, or schools or anything physical at all. It has everything to do with people who think they are smarter than everyone, who think the rules are for everyone else, that THEY should be allowed to dictate policies, that think everyone else is a bigot but them, of course.

So now we are reverting back to the 70's when Nixon made a bad supreme court nomination and all a stupid Republican Midwestern senator could say in his defense was that mediocre people were under represented on the court and mediocre people are due some representation as well.

[evad]

This might be a low blow, but Bush was also very confident in finding stockpiles of WMD's in Iraq.

Not necessarily a low blow but definitely apples and oranges.

[nicmarlo]

someone compiled a list demonstrating that most of the alternatives to Miers that those "Beltway elitists" are promoting have neither Ivy League degrees nor elitist credentials.

Laura Ingram read off a list of those who have been, prominently, repeatedly and regularly suggested as better choices.....not one was from an elitist Ivy law school.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

shouldn't a private organization be run without govt. intereference. Isn't that a conservative value.

Of course. But that doesn't mean that the principles private organizations promote don't say something about the values of those promoting them. If you ran a bar association, would you favor racial/sex set-asides in law firm hiring?

Come on, Dane. Your support for Miers is pushing you into some odd places.

[nevergore]

ROFLOL...hardly have I morphed into a demoncrat....even on Holloween!

SamAdams76 defined elitists with a very narrow definition....not by attitude but by their parents wealth and what school they attended. Everyone else was regular folk....He included GWB in the "everyone else" catagory

I simply pointed out that his narrow definition of elitists may not always apply since by using it GWB would fall into the elitist column.....

[funkywbr]

What I want to know is WHY they put out an olive branch, MIERS, to the Dems before US?

[ElkGroveDan]

this should liven up our Staurday here on FR.

[Edit35]

but your statementment (on WMDs) certainly makes anything else you have to say completely irrelevant.

Dont get me wrong. I continue to support the Iraq war 110-percent, and I still believe there ARE stockpiles (maybe less) of WMD's out there someplace.

In fact there hasn't hardly been a thing (save immigration) which I haven't supported President Bush on since his election in 2000. ( I wholeheartedly supported the toppling of Saddam Hussein even WITHOUT the WMD rationale. Iraq was hiding, funding and supporting the type of terrorists who've been attacking us.)

It's just that this "confidence" in his selection of Miers is somehow over the top, not to mention demoralizing to his conservative base, considering all the good candidates there reportedly are in this country.

[Dane]

Laura Ingram read off a list of those who have been, prominently, repeatedly and regularly suggested as better choices.....not one was from an elitist Ivy law school

Well what about their careers, have they been mostly in the ivory aristotic legal tower of academia and judgeships.

Miers has real life experience working in corporate law and has actually been popularly elected in the legislative branch.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

I don't know if she's a good choice or not.

I respect your approach. But even if you can't decide whether she's a 'good' choice, surely we can agree that she is not the best choice, or even among the better choices W could have made. There were many potential candidates with vastly superior intellectual, constitutional and conservative credentials.

For that matter, based on the evidence of her very weak writing skills and poor performances in her Senate meetings, I believe there is enough evidence to conclude that she is not even a 'good' choice.

[AmishDude]

The replacement for Miers, should there be one, is very likely to be Gonzales.

[nicmarlo]

And working in the "real" world isn't working as a judge? That's not "real"? We not only have to set aside men from the "real" world of choices but also prior experience and knowledge of the constitution?

[governsleastgovernsbest]

When you began your defense of Miers, did you ever think you'd eventually find yourself on the opposite side from Bork, Rush [who never graduated from college] et. al, and on the same side as those favoring hard race-based quotas?

[Dane]

Of course. But that doesn't mean that the principles private organizations promote don't say something about the values of those promoting them. If you ran a bar association, would you favor racial/sex set-asides in law firm hiring?

They can run their organization anyway they see fit, what I'm against is government mandates, and you have no evidence that Ms. Meirs is full aquare for that.

[AmishDude]

But I think the odds of that are slim and none. Based on her writings that have been made public and the comments coming out of her meetings with senators, it seems clear that she lacks both the knowledge and the intellectual skills to pull off that kind of performance in the hearings.

Go ahead and be yet another IQ test adminstrator. The smartest person I know (he's considered a genius by other professional mathematicians) cannot write a word, even in his native language.

[Mr. Lucky]

The best plan "B" would be for Justice O'connor to resign, President Bush to appoint Judge Bork during a Congressional recess, and then nominate Janice Rogers Brown to fill the seat permanently.

[nicmarlo]

At the Supreme Court of the United States level, I would say it's quite obvious for the need to express/articulate oneself quite well. Ambiguity and lack of clarity are not ideally suited for any judge, much less on sitting on SCOTUS.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Oy vey. That is the least likely scenario.

If W is resigned to alienating his conservative base, he won't replace Miers. If he does replace her, it will be because he realizes he cannot afford to alienate conservatives. So there's no way he'd do so again by nominating Gonzales. That would seal the divorce between W and conservatives and turn him into an instant lame-duck.

[AmishDude]

The Constitution: It ain't long. It ain't complicated and only idiot lawyers can make it so.

[CindyDawg]

You may very well be right but credentials don't really mean a whole lot to me. The benches are loaded with them and look at the mess we are in. I don't believe it takes a genius to read and understand the constitution.