WALL STREETAND THEBOLSHEVIKREVOLUTION

Reformed Theology.org ^ | Antony C. Sutton

[jb6]

Think China, this is very close to the case there now.

[Semper Paratus]

Lenin's quote comes to mind about capitalists willingly selling the rope that will hang them.

[giobruno]

I looked into Anthony Sutton and his books several years ago while at graduate school; he is a total crank and a fraud, a conspiratorialist of the first order. He very selectively takes "evidence" that fits his "ideas" and then leaves out even more. If you want to read a solid history of the Bolshevik Revolution, I recommend Martin Malia or Richard Pipes, not Art Bell Anthony Sutton. This stuff is garbage and so is his Wall St. created Hitler bunk. He is akin to the fever swamp conspiracy mongers on our time.

[jb6]

And yet both Ford (who had an apartment on Red Square and sold off Russian art treasures to the West for the Soviets) and Armnhammer came to Stalin and built chemical plants for him in the 30s. Furthermore, they abandoned their American engineers who were then sent to the gulag. Ford further was the main publisher of Mein Kompf in America and his factories in Germany are now being sued for slavery since he had Jews and Slavs for slave labor while building Panzers to fight the Shermans he built for America.

[Willie Green]

But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

~Karl Marx, "On the Question of Free Trade" - January 9, 1848

[Alberta's Child]

The author makes a very common mistake by assuming that there was ever anything "conservative" about Big Business in this country. The reality is that Big Business and Big Government are really no different, and that small, independently-owned companies have long been the best model for political/economic conservatism in this country.

[cynicom]

Jacob Schiff financed the "Russian" revolution. His grandson is married to Al Gores daughter. Communists like to keep it in the family.

[jb6]

ping

[bassmaner]

bump for later reading

[coladirienzi]

Looks like old Karl could have written NAFTA and CAFTA all by himself! I might send this quote to Rush. If anything could shock him into dead air time this is it.

Free traders might want to reconsider their position when they find out that they brought Karl Marx to the dance.

[giobruno]

There were individual cases, mostly the children of wealthy industrialist (Hammer's son, for example) who were sympathetic to the Bolsheviks (and some gave money, some helped the regime with business deal that usually went south), but so were many young eggheads at the time; and Ford was a conspiracy nut himself (like Powell), but this by no means indicates widespread or large scale support for the revolution among the US business class or Wall St. Ford was a jew-hater, but he did not build Germany or their war effort or their industry; Hitler did not rely on Henry Ford to ensure his rise to power. The truth is the West did not finance the Bolsheviks and our arrangements with Hitler were largely established pre-Hitler, our investments trailed off into the 1930's. These items you mention are merely anecdotal, or dubious accuracy, and exactly of the breathless type that characterizes Powell's work. Again, the guy is a total nut, a bad historian, and a fraud. I was studying Russian history at the time and did a line by line reading of his "case." It was complete crap; my professor and I spent an afternoon with his "history." It was true for people who really didn't know much about the subject, but wanted to believe in a mysterious, nefarious "business conspiracy." It is stuff for the "New American" and the Birch Society. Trotsky would have laughed his arse off at Powell's claims.

[giobruno]

I should have said "the Bolshevik rise to power," I can already hear the chorus of "correctors" telling we "What about WW2? You don't know your history!" The Russians received most of their pre-war support from the Germans, actually, who worked with the Russians to test German weapons that the Germans were not supposed to be working with. Some US firms had dealings with the Reds, but not many, and most, after getting a taste of how business was done over there, bailed. The Russians scraped by in the 1920's. Stalin had some western help, but not much. To suggest that big business put the Reds in power is stupid and wrong.

[Jack Black]

Ping. I printed. This isn't really an article, it's a freaking book. !

[1rudeboy]

Unintentionally hilarious.

[jb6]

ping

[Toddsterpatriot]

There's one born every minute!

[struwwelpeter]

FSB Director Yuriy Ivanovich Drozhdov references Anthony Sutton on the FSB website here.

[tgambill]

The major source of Hitler's financial power came from a chemical cartel called I.G Farben with an American group formed later...I.G. Farben has a little known source of its enormous power...Wall Street, USA, my country.

Quote: "Without the capital supplied by Wall Street, there would have been no I.G. Farben in the first place, and almost certainly no Adolf Hitler and World War II.... Historian Anthony Sutton.

http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

The "globalists" had determined that tehy would support the Bolsheviks, over and above the desire of the Russian People. The people actually wanted the Czar to remain their ruler. The History books are full of crap....we were taught lies and BS in school and I'm pissed. Our money provided the funding necessary for the beginning of the most despotic government of all History. The reason according to my research taken from many difference sources, all saying the same thing......was first of all Rockefeller's Standard Oil Company had seen an international competitor surface. The source of all this oil.....The Baku oil fields, Caspian Sea, Russia. Russia's Czar Nicholas II invited the European partnership of Rothschild and Nobel to develop his oil fields.....they even built a railroad for their use.

Therefore, a Bolshevik Victory, financed by American Bankers, guaranteed preferential treatment for John D. Rockefeller and world domination of the oil business. Thus we are in the Balkans...not for the "liberation" of Muslims from Serbs, but for the oil, control of the Balkans, and eventual dissolution of Russian states.

Since then, there has been an agenda as well, to socialize the U.S. that has an agenda even up to today that is getting ready to drive the last stake into the Constitution shortly.

December 2006:

Scholar Russia Has Energy Stranglehold Over Europe
By Barry Wood
Washington
07 December 2006

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-12-07-voa64.cfm?renderforprint=1

Marshall Goldman, a long-time student of Russia, says energy wealth and control over export pipelines have made Russia more powerful than at any time in its history. VOA's Barry Wood reports the Harvard University professor spoke at a forum Thursday in Washington.

Professor Goldman told the Jamestown Foundation that Russia's post-cold war power is built on its oil and gas resources. He said both eastern and western Europe have become dependent on Russia for oil and gas and that alternative supplies are not available. The recent boom in oil and gas prices, said Professor Goldman, has greatly boosted Russia's economic and political clout.

"I end up arguing, and I'm putting my neck out, that Russia is more powerful now than it ever was during the czarist era or the Soviet era," he noted. "In the Soviet era there was mutually assured destruction. They had nuclear weapons. We had nuclear weapons. We didn't use them, because we were worried they would and vice versa. Here you don't have that kind of restraint."

Goldman says Russia has a long history of using oil and gas as a foreign policy tool.

"In the Soviet era they cut off the flow of oil to Yugoslavia under Tito, to Israel after Sinai, to China after Mao broke away, to Cuba, to Finland, and more recently to Lithuania because there is a dispute over who is going to control the refinery there that Yukos is trying to sell," he explained.

[tgambill]

http://reactor-core.org/none-dare.html


NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
Copyright © 1971 by Gary Allen
with Larry Abraham
ISBN: 0899666612

not sutton and it supports his great work....:)

[1rudeboy]

And it's just as wrong as Perot's comment about the "sucking sound." How much time does a historical figure get when making a prediction? Does it matter if they are a head of state?