Posted on 10/20/2005 11:09:48 AM PDT by Millee
An Ellettsville family whose home is decorated for Halloween contacted police after someone placed on its porch a flier that suggests Halloween praises the devil.
Dalene Gully told Indianapolis television station WRTV that she took offense to the flier, which was placed outside her home by the House of Prayer Church of Bloomington.
"I started reading it, and I was very, very upset by it. I found it very accusatory and very threatening," Gully said.
The church's pastor, Larry Mitchell, said the people who left the flier would have preferred to talk with Gully, but she wasn't there.
Mitchell said the church didn't intend to upset the Gully family, but rather tell people that Halloween isn't harmless fun.
"Halloween is not fantasy," Mitchell said. "We're training up our children, and obviously this lady was trained up in this. Halloween seems like it is taking just as much prominence as Christmas."
The Gully family filed a complaint with the Ellettsville Police Department. The incident also prompted the family to install an alarm system at the home, the station reported.
"This is my home, and I like Halloween. If I want to decorate my home, I have every right to decorate my home," Gully said.
I was a history major with a specialty in British history, and if there was a story like that around I would have read it somewhere.
. . . besides, when the "Druids" were active in Britain, they were supposedly all the religion there was. There WEREN'T any "non-pagans" in Britain, other than the Romans who were just visiting. If a Druid boiled a Roman, it was probably due to wartime animosity rather than religious ritual.
What you may be thinking of is the old fairy tale re the "Cauldron of Youth". That is Welsh in one form, but it appears all over the place in Europe and in Africa as well.
Do you remember how King Saul lost the God given grace, how he consulted Witch of Endor?
I have no idea what happened to those children...I know that they were taken by some sort of Social Services...
This family lived only one block from our house...and they had lived there for years...however, we knew very little about them...their children went to some sort of religous school, and were never ever allowed to play with any of the other children on the block...because these kids told the other kids, that they were too 'sinful', to be associated with...so the little contact had between these children and the rest of the children on the block, was minimal...
And the parents would never talk to any of the other parents on the block...I guess they deemed us to be too 'sinful', as well...
All I do know is, the home was put up for sale shortly after that happened...I just assume the dad would remain in jail for a while, and I never found out how the woman fared...I know she was not killed, ,that she did survive...
But they were certainly a family, that thought they were too good for everyone else in their neighborhood...
Luckily for us, a very nice family, with four boys moved in...my own children were happy to see this....more boys to play with, meant better baseball and football games, more boys to ride bikes with, more boys to have fun with...no more getting pointed at, and told how 'sinful', they were...
There is a virulent anti-Catholic at our office, poor girl has been deluded by the Chick tracts. I think I'm making some progress, though . . . pointing out that anybody would detest a "religion" as described by Chick, but that he's got it wrong because he's misinformed.
Haven't gotten her to Mass yet . . . . < g >
Most of our churches here have 'fall festivals' or 'trunk or treat' so that kids can participate in the fun without the fear of celebrating satan.
Fall festivals/harvest festivals are Pagan in nature - and I don't know one Pagan who celebrates Satan. I loved the night in late Oct. a few years ago when I dropped my kids off at their friend's church who admonishes Halloween ("Satan's birthday" - gimme a break), yet, at the front door were two pumpkins carved with crosses, lit up with candles....if they only knew they were celebrating Paganism with their Jack-O-Lanterns. Much of this notion that Halloween is a Satan-related holiday is based out of fear mongering and total ignorance. Sure, it has to do with death & spirits, but where Satan came into it happened when Satanists (NOT Pagans) latched onto the "dark" notion of the event.
You either "celebrate" it and take the good (candy, parties, dressing up, cool decorations) with the bad (stomach aches, lost souls, demonic possession) or put your money where your mouth is and have nothing to do with any traditions - evolved or not.
A lot of these nutty chhurches hold these "Hell Houses". One near me has a drive-through version. They're designed to terrify kids into believing what the preachers tell them, and into thinking that they urgently need to go out and convert all the children they know who go trick-or-treating to save them from really being subjected to all these staged horrors for eternity.
And, for that matter, the Witch of Endor was real too.
You can't compare actual worship of pagan gods and consulting unclear spirits with the little kids dressing up as firemen or princesses to go score some candy -- nobody believing a word of it.
LOL! I need to remember that one for next time the Jehovah's Witnesses show up.
That one may be worth a try.
Who are you to tell me what is mine to dissect?
What I meant by "blind repentance" is that you're advocating repentance over the blood of Jesus shed for the FINAL payment for sins
Are you saying that since He paid for your sins, you are insured and need NOT to be worried about committing them? The sacrifice of Christ needs to be accepted, and this acceptance has to be maintained or renewed. If you think that you OWN salvation, call impure things good and say that you do not need to repent again and again you REJECT Christ. To understand it is not blindness.
Oh geez, my 1 year old daughter is going to be Piglet. It's the apocolypse!!!
Just a note, my daughter was born on Oct. 29th. My wife was having a fit that she could've been born on Holloween. LOL!
So, what are you doing on the 31st? Passing out Jack Chick tracts to the kiddies, or are you going to turn out your porch light and hide?
Again, it did not say it was threatening, only that she found it threatening. "Found" in this context is subjective. Someone else could just as easily have read the exact same flier and "found" it to be juvenile and amusing.
I still think it was a stupid thing to do, but we are quickly losing the meaning of our language. Today it's threatening: tomorrow an act of terrorism?!?
Called the police? What an imbecile...
My son was born on October 26 - he always has had spooky themed birthday parties, although lately he's decided that's sissy and takes his friends to play paintball instead . . .
Both my boys were dressed up as little bunnies for their first Halloween...to some, so uptight, that was soooo sinful..
ROFL. I was raised in a very large So. Baptist church in Oklahoma. When I was a kid we had Halloween parties at church and even had haunted houses put on by the youth. Something must have happened toward the end of the 70s to make the Baptists go PC or something. They are "all" against celebrating Halloween or something. Now most don't have a problem with participating but definitely don't want to celebrate it at church. That part I can understand. It's those that don't celebrate it at all that I can't figure out especially knowing how it was done back when I was a kid.
My birthday is Oct. 25th...my wedding anniversary(36yrs), is Oct. 26th....I am sure, some uptight religious nut, will read something into that...being so close to Halloween and all...
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