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Parents Cast Fight as Sexual vs. Religious Tolerance: People angry at schools' 'gay agenda.'
LA Times ^ | 10/20/5 | Stephanie Simon

Posted on 10/20/2005 9:48:30 AM PDT by Crackingham

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To: BenLurkin

His bald head must be good luck. I actually taught a polygamist's child once.


101 posted on 10/20/2005 11:01:15 AM PDT by moog
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To: moog

are you playing hookie


102 posted on 10/20/2005 11:03:09 AM PDT by catmanblack. (he is the great I AM-)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

How is it someone else's business whether or not your children are exposed to perversion or not?

It's yours and mine too as it is a societal issue. Nonetheless, it is CHIEFLY the parent's business. I am thankful mine addressed it.


103 posted on 10/20/2005 11:03:31 AM PDT by moog
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To: MineralMan
The fact is that their son is likely to meet other students who have same sex parents.

That is a physical impossibility.

Their child can meet a birthparent who has a live-in boyfriend or girlfriend of the same sex.

Can same sex couples both put their names on adoption forms?

104 posted on 10/20/2005 11:03:59 AM PDT by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: catmanblack.

are you playing hookie

I have a two day break. :) I don't play hooky as I hate getting ready for a substitute. I have missed an average of about 1 day a year.


105 posted on 10/20/2005 11:04:55 AM PDT by moog
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To: weegee

"Can same sex couples both put their names on adoption forms?"

Yes, in some states.


106 posted on 10/20/2005 11:05:47 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: BenLurkin

Funny picture.


107 posted on 10/20/2005 11:06:42 AM PDT by moog
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To: Crackingham

This is part of a larger effort on the part of the liberal elites to define deviancy down. I've noticed a lot of it lately in our newspaper here in Atlanta. An article on some innocuous subject--say, a neighborhood meeting--will highlight the comments of a same-sex couple, making sure to point out that they own or rent a home together. Even more commonly, the paper will use cohabiting heterosexuals in its stories about subjects that are otherwise unrelated to sexual behavior: "Sue Smith and her boyfriend Bill Jones have finally found the perfect blueprint for the new deck they are building on the home they have shared for the past three years." It occurs so often that it can only be intentional.


108 posted on 10/20/2005 11:10:15 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: weegee

Here's some info on states which have allowed gay or lesbian partners to adopt children where both halves of the couple are legally parents. This is most common with lesbian couples where one partner has given birth to the child, and the other adopting as a second parent.




Second parent adoptions (by unmarried couples) have been granted by the courts (the approvals were generally from the lower level courts) in 21 States and the District of Columbia: Alabama, Alaska, California, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont and Washington.

From:
http://naic.acf.hhs.gov/pubs/f_gay/f_gayc.cfm


109 posted on 10/20/2005 11:10:54 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: gondramB
What these parents are asking for is not something we can reasonably accommodate in the public school system. If they want a school consistent with their religion, they need to send their kids to a religious school.

Balderdash. The public schools in America did quite well, until recently, by not promoting homosexuality as normal and, even, admirable. They had no trouble 'accomodating' to a don't ask don't tell approach to the subject until recently.

Now, the schools have decided to promote homosexuality as as a good thing and so they are. Promoting homosexuality is a deliberate choice the schools have made. It's not something forced upon them by reality or morality. It's a conscious, cultural choice they have made.

The question here is, was it a good choice and should parents have to just grin and bear it if they believe the schools have made a bad choice? You are in the parents should bend over and accept it crowd. I am not.

110 posted on 10/20/2005 11:12:14 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: madprof98

Interesting comment.


111 posted on 10/20/2005 11:12:32 AM PDT by moog
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To: ModelBreaker

Balderdash.

That's a fun game.


112 posted on 10/20/2005 11:13:45 AM PDT by moog
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To: gondramB

Your entire argument is predicated upon a set of moral suppositions (and judgements) every one of which begins with: "Thou shall not..." Not only that, but implicit within your 'secular' argument is a supposition of moral superiority.


113 posted on 10/20/2005 11:15:22 AM PDT by Lindykim (Courage is the first of all the virtues...if you haven*t courage, you may not have the opportunity)
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To: Lindykim

Quit using so many big words. Not all of us are so superior you know:).


114 posted on 10/20/2005 11:17:00 AM PDT by moog
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To: clee1

Baloney. Just as in the WOT, surrender solves nothing.
This man needs encouragment to continue his fight. He is right. What he is doing is right. He should not be encouraged to quit.


115 posted on 10/20/2005 11:18:31 AM PDT by getitright (There's no peace in appeasement.)
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To: sandbar
I hope the rabid anti-homosexual activists (and you know who you are) don't flame me for it.

I guess I better run to my doctor and get shots before I infect you with my hateful cooties, LOL.

My daughter was unfortunately introduced to homosexuality at the tender age of 5. My husband was driving with her to visit a friend in Queens. Two lesbians were making out on the streets. And not just making out, but doing everything you can and still keep your clothes on! To be honest, I think that was her first exposure to people "making out." Up until then she'd seen nothing but family kisses, friendly kisses, and brief Mommy & Daddy kisses.

We had wanted to broach this subject with her when she was a bit older, but there we were. He explained to her that there were people in the world who were confused. There were women who acted like men and men who acted like women. Perhaps a combination of chemicals and a bad life led to this confusion; we didn't really know. Not every creation is flawless, and we can learn from these flaws to strive for what is right.

After we started breeding rabbits, it was much easier to explain it. She'd learn that rabbits were rather frisky, and mating was not a perfect process. The urge was always there, but how to go about it properly was sometimes trial and error. She learned we couldn't put two males together becuase they would either try to kill each other or "mate" with each other. We could sometimes put females together, but only if they were young; the older they got, the more violent they got and would mimic male behaviors and try to "show each other who's boss."

She learned that in some cases, sexual behavior is an expression not of sexual need, but of confusion, anger and domuination. She realized that animals were not reasoning creatures, and that "trying to make babies" was not a rational process for them; it was an instinct.

Some people are much like animals, in that many cannot control urges or their urges have been warped by confusion. Same-sex behavior is not about sex per se; it's about domination and control. It is behavior acted out because the participants don't understand themselves and their situation. In humans, the process is a bit more complex, but she's a smart girl and can apply microcosm to the larger scheme of things.

I guess to some, I am rather hateful person, but I feel I'm being honest with my daughter.

116 posted on 10/20/2005 11:19:47 AM PDT by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: weegee

"That is a physical impossibility."

Not for long, it seems. Research is ongoing on ways to fertilize a woman's egg with another woman's genetic material. Similar research is ongoing to create a "male egg," which would be fertilized with another male's sperm.

In the first case, one of the women would carry the baby. In the other, a surrogate would be required.

Please note that I am not in favor of such, but it does appear that things are about to change. Right now, they're working with mice, but....

More info at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1431489.stm

and

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_2002_March_19/ai_83667580


117 posted on 10/20/2005 11:20:26 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: getitright

in the WOT, surrender solves nothing.

I agree with that.


118 posted on 10/20/2005 11:21:13 AM PDT by moog
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To: two134711

A rather unique comment and perspective.


119 posted on 10/20/2005 11:23:20 AM PDT by moog
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To: Crackingham

Good luck and salute to the Parkers!


120 posted on 10/20/2005 11:24:16 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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