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To: GOPPachyderm

"And ID is not in conflict with the idea of evolution within species. The creation of life without an designer is a pretty big hurdle for evolutionists, no? It is incredibly difficult to believe that all of the complexity of the universe and the beauty that we see each day comes about by sheer chance."

That's right. I belive in ID. But science class is about science and there is no scientific evidence of an intelligent designer. There are problems and open questions but not evidence.


164 posted on 10/20/2005 3:37:44 PM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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To: gondramB

I would like to have the problems discussed in a classroom environment and debated in scientific communities. And I'd like to hear programs on television state: scientists theorize [or propose or suggest]; or it is thought [or conjectured.

But that's not what we hear and those with a dissenting opinion aren't even allowed in the cluhouse.


169 posted on 10/20/2005 3:46:04 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: gondramB
That's right. I belive in ID. But science class is about science and there is no scientific evidence of an intelligent designer. There are problems and open questions but not evidence.

Thank you so very much. This issue is not about science making war on religion. For the record, I have no problem with prayer in school, prayer by students at commencement, etc. I have no problem with students learning about creationism and intelligent design in philosophy class, writing about creationism and intelligent design in Engish class, depating creationism and intelligent design in forensics club, and so on.

But science class is for science. Science class must teach basic science geared toward the prevailing scientific viewpoint. The actual number of hours in which students receive science education is very limited, and there is simply not time to address alternative theories and minority viewpoints. Furthermore, the point of science classes is to prepare students for continuing education. As such, science curriculum should be designed to adequatedly prepare students for the subjects as they will be taugh at university.

171 posted on 10/20/2005 3:48:40 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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