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To: RusIvan
They all are citizens of relative countries but thier ethnicity is different then of title ethnicity which founded respectful country.

Their ethnicity is indeed different, I never denied that, but ethnicity doesn't matter. In civilized countries, ethnicity and faith are parts of private lives of citizens, and have nothing to do with their civil or public activities.

For the first time in modern Europe this was legally embodied in the Napoleonic codes which became a subject of admiration and emulation. But same concept is used by ancient Romans as well, who included not only the populace of conquered by them lands into the Empire, but even their gods into the Roman pantheon.

Quite different was the Greek/Byzantine notion - for them, ethnicity of the "barbarians" forever prevented the latter from becoming their real equals. And even more important role, as far as Byzantium was concerned, belonged to the Orthodox Christianity. Obviously, that is how this outdated and backward idea took so firm grip on Russia and Russians - that is, your likes in Russia, the group which luckily isn't neither typical nor representative.

title ethnicity which founded respective countries

This is a pure absurd. Tell me, what ethnicity founded the Netherlands? France? USA? Argentina? Russia? I would advice you not to become ridiculous, but I'm afraid I'm late - you already are, and insist to be seen as totally ignorant, too.

409 posted on 11/02/2005 8:15:51 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: Neophyte

Their ethnicity is indeed different, I never denied that, but ethnicity doesn't matter. In civilized countries, ethnicity and faith are parts of private lives of citizens, and have nothing to do with their civil or public activities.===

Very liberal idea. COuntries, thier flag culture do not matter only people?

Yeah yeah tell it to those "frenchs" (accually arabs) who rioting today in Paris surberbs. See into it and you suddently find that only arabs who rioting. No french and no even blacks.
WHY so strict choice happened if ethnicity doesn't matter? Why only arabs riot and no other people of different ethnicities didn't joined them?

See it from other perspective.
If ethnicities didn't matter as you say then they would disapper as entities. Why to keep something which doesn't matter? Hence ethnic states like France, Britain, Sweden, Mexico and others would disappear too.
But it doesn't happen. WHY? If ethnicities as you say do not matter?

This is a pure absurd. Tell me, what ethnicity founded the Netherlands? France? USA? Argentina? Russia? ==

I don't know what ethnicity founded Netherland. But France was founded by french. Russia by russians. Israel by jews.

I think that maybe in distant future we may overlive the existance of national states and whole humankind will be united. THEN ethnicities will not matter and your dream came true. Not today.
But today national states and ethnicities still exist. SO be it.


410 posted on 11/02/2005 10:16:52 PM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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