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To: ovrtaxt
It is my understanding that the wall began with Jimmy Carter.

I am sure some tech savvy freeper can research this.

3 posted on 10/20/2005 3:42:37 AM PDT by OldFriend (Corine Lombardo ~ American Patriot)
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To: OldFriend

I think it was the Church Commission you're thinking of.

http://www.cia.gov/csi/kent_csi/docs/v20i2a01p_0002.htm

In any case, Reagan signed Executive Order 12333 in 1981. Seems like that should have been the legal basis for the DOD lawyers to handle the Able Danger info. The fact that they didn't implicates a political motivation that superceded a commitment to national security.


4 posted on 10/20/2005 3:48:56 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: Carolinamom; Peach; Miss Marple; Dog

Interesting reading here.


5 posted on 10/20/2005 3:53:00 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (I am not the sharpest pin in the cushion but I can draw blood.)
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To: OldFriend

This from Wikipedia:

Fox News pundit Bill O'Reilly and others have asserted that the Able Danger intelligence was suppressed as a result of "the wall." During the 9/11 Commission hearings, then-Attorney General John Ashcroft alleged the wall was strengthened under the Clinton administration by Jamie Gorelick to prohibit sharing of terrorist intelligence within the federal government. [25]

This assertion was disputed by former senator Slade Gorton (R-WA), a member of the 9-11 Commission, who said, "nothing Jamie Gorelick wrote had the slightest impact on the Department of Defense or its willingness or ability to share intelligence information with other intelligence agencies." Gorton also asserted that "the wall" was a long-standing policy that had resulted from the Church committee in the 1970s, and that the policy only prohibits transfer of certain information from prosecutors to the intelligence services and never prohibited information flowing in the opposite direction.

The controversy is beginning to damage the credibility of the 9/11 Commission in areas outside of Able Danger as well. Columnist Mike Kelly has written that the 9/11 Commission's work is "under a cloud." [26]


6 posted on 10/20/2005 3:53:40 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: OldFriend; ovrtaxt; Mia T

<< It is my understanding that the wall began with Jimmy Carter. >>

Any investigation into the wall's provenance leads through the ever-increasing corruption and criminality that has marked and continues to define the now considerably almost eighty years the machinery of the federal government has been increasingly and more corruptly in the hands of activist "Democrats."

All of the threads pass through and are tainted by the Soviet-agent riddled Roosevelt administration and through the bastard offspring of the Communist Party of America [Including the male parent of -- and explaining the life-long pathological anti-Americanism of one John F Kerry] who comprised then and comprise now the State and every other departments' self-perpetuating brahmanas.

As still are most members of his family, including the swimmer, Kennedy was pro-actively engaged with a much wider cross-section of America's organised crime than resides within the federal bureaucracy -- and the habitual drunkard, Johnson, who went from wrong-side-of-the tracks school teacher to our president's office without ever having earned a single free-enterprise Dollar, was too busy building a corruptly-obtained personal fortune worth about a Billion 2005 Dollars [And whose junior consigliere and bag-man, Bill Moyers, both almost single-handedly destroyed the Nixon presidency and continues to fatten himself of the public tit] to be other than a willing and actively-criminal participant.

Although the beginning of the islamists' war also tracks straight to it, Carter's gutlessness, ineptitude and incompetence [As incidently, later on, did Colin Powell's] permitted him to be easily manipulated by the self-annointed, self-appointed and self-perpetuating permenant federal public service.

But it was only when the already abjectly corruptly, criminally and communist-Chinese-compromised co-serial-rapist Clintons' Crime Family came to town that the need to Balkanize and to ghettoize the various agencies became absolutely imperative to the survival of that gang of lying, looting, mass-murdering thugs, which dedicated itself to ensuring that the copious quantities of CIA, NSC and other intelligence-agency-gathered evidence of Clinton's, his wife's and the administration's treason and systemic criminality did not find its way to the FBI and Justice. In taking the actions that sufficiently covered the Clinton Gang's tracks to keep most of them from prison, that gang and its willing permenant bureaucracy accomplices also prevented the movement from place to place of the information of crucial importance to America's security.

Such visible operatives as such of its more visible manifestations of evil as second-generation lifetime-Soviet-agent, dangerous dullard and September 11 2001-airport-security-subversive, Al-fredo Gore, active chicom agent, John Huang, "wall-memo" issuing, justice-obstructionist, Gorelick, Hubbel, Bader Ginsberg, Reno, Lanny Davis, Harold Ickes, Bruce Lindsey, Richard Benveniste, Tenent, James Hall, James Kallstrom, Sandy Burgler et al were only the tip of the iceberg of a for decades abjectly-politicized and finally-effectively criminalized federal bureaucracy absolutely converted to and dedicated to the at-all-costs corruption-cover-up and preservation of the Clinton Gang.

It is history that the Clinton Gang's visible criminal arrogance -- and particularly after the Mrs-Clinton-conducted firing of every United States Attorney and simultaneous looting and conversion to criminal usage of the FBI's every data base -- all of course ignored and/or wilfully mischaracterized by its every MSM axis-of-evil mate, finally felt no restraints and knew no bounds.

It is of course another story that George W Bush has not only refused and/or resisted every effort to pursue the owed every American criminal investigations of every member of that gang but has also contributed to the Clintons' and to their gang's rehabilitations, speaks very poorly of Mr Bush and of America's self-appointed oligarchy.

And will, along with Mrs Miers and America's Sovereign Borders and a few other glaring abrogations, no doubt be debited to the Republican Party's ongoing accounts!

Sukkot Shabbat, All Y'All.

Blessings -- Brian

BUMPping


41 posted on 10/20/2005 7:20:52 AM PDT by Brian Allen (Patriotic [Immigrant] AMERICAN-American and Aviator by choice - Christian by Grace)
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To: OldFriend

Jamie the Pig Gorelick built the HIGHER wall!


48 posted on 10/20/2005 4:51:35 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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